>Alan, I'm assuming that you're not in North America, as we do not get the Civic Type-R. Actually, I would consider the Integra (now RSX in the US) Type-R, but it is not sold in the US- the current chassis, that is. Taka< Aha, nope, im in the uk, Shame, the civic type r is considered the ultimate hot hatch here.....if you like that sort of thing :)