Want to take 4KCSQ to 300HP Need guidance

[Jared Hourihan]

www.motorgeek.com ..... there are prolly more high power off the wall 5 cyl
people here (20v and 10v) then anywhere else. This would be where I would
start with your quest.... good luck.

Jared

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jörgen Karlsson" <jorgen.m.karlsson at home.se>
To: <tyson at up-times.com>; "Quattro at Audifans. Com (E-mail)"
<quattro at audifans.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2004 3:59 PM
Subject: SV: Want to take 4KCSQ to 300HP Need guidance


> Hi,
>
> You don't need a 20vt to make 300hp but it's harder with the 10vt. A 20vt
> head will not work, as a minimum you need new pistons that suit the 20vt
> head. I don't think that you have the oil squirters in the 10v na engine
> either.
>
> Since you have built exhaust manifolds earlier you can use the 10vt(MC1
and
> MC2 engines found in 5000TQ). You just need to throw away the stock
manifold
> and turbo and replace it with a large modern aftermarket turbo. It seems
> like the closer you are to 4k when you see boost the better the
performance
> will be.
>
> You need a good intercooler too, the units used with the mc engines isn't
> very impressive.
>
> A 20vt engine will also benefit from a custom exhaust manifold and a
larger
> turbo.
>
> The old 5 cylinder bottom ends is very strong and the gearboxes too. Your
> stock clutch can't be used, it's much to weak.
>
> Or you fit an ABZ V8 from Audi A8 as I did. 300hp and 0-60mhp in the 4.5s
> range even if lots of time is lost doing the 2nd-3rd shift at 50mph. A six
> speed would allow be to shift to third after hitting 60mph, I guess that
sub
> 4 seconds would be fairly simple. www7.brinkster.com/jurgmannen/start.asp
>
> A mild turbo setup on the V8 should be possible without opening the
enigne.
> I think that it's a good idea to size the turbine/turbines really big to
> allow the engine to breathe freely and to let boost come in after 4000rpm
to
> flatten the torque curve. The engine will not detonate as easily on high
rpm
> and the transmission will tolerate much more power at high rpm.
>
> Jörgen
>
> > -----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
> > Från: quattro-bounces at audifans.com
> > [mailto:quattro-bounces at audifans.com]För Tyson Varosyan
> > Skickat: den 8 maj 2004 03:20
> > Till: Quattro at Audifans. Com (E-mail)
> > Ämne: Want to take 4KCSQ to 300HP Need guidance
> >
> >
> > Well, after a little more than a year since my '85 4ksq died due to fuel
> > distributor problems, I got sucked back into the Audi world. I scored a
> > pretty good deal for an '86 4kcsq in running condition. Pretty
> > much the same
> > car, my old one was a bit nicer though. I figure now I have 2 cars and
if
> > anything goes wrong with this one, I have a whole other one for parts...
> >
> > Anyhow, over time I ran into a few posts, websites and the like of
people
> > whom have taken their 4kq and 5kq cars to 250-300HP. Finding
> > details on how
> > exactly people do this is hard. With as light as this sucker is, I bet
it
> > would fly! My 3800lbs AWD Rice Rocket was the king on the road with
little
> > under 400HP, I would take a 1000lbs weight loss over 100HP anyday!
> >
> > I presume that the 5cyl 20v engine will be required. I hope that
> > I will not
> > need a whole new block and that a new head will do the trick in that
> > department.
> >
> > I would also LOVE to ditch this CIS system which I have learned
> > to fear and
> > switch to something that I am much more familiar with, a MAP driven
S-EFI.
> > >From what I think, I will need a MAP sensor, air temp sensor,
> > barometer, an
> > ECU, injectors and fuel plumbing, Intake manifold and exhaust manifold.
I
> > would LOVE to use something like the AEM EMS, but those things are a bit
> > pricey... If there is a more affordable way to go with using parts from
> > other Audi cars, I would like to do that.
> >
> > Turbo is an obvious must. I do not even know what turbos Audi uses and
if
> > they are any good. I have quite a bit of experience with the TD04 and
TD05
> > layout and am familiar with the T3/T4 setup as well. I would like to
have
> > something that I can work on and understand, but at the same time
> > something
> > that works well.
> >
> > I am concerned about the bottom end of the block, the clutch and tranny.
> > Will they be able to handle this kind of power? I know the Germans build
> > solid drive trains, so I hope to be OK in that department.
> >
> > I have a welder, a cutter, I have made exhaust manifolds before etc, so
I
> > think I want to get geared up to make this into one hell of a monster.
> >
> > Whom has done this? Where do I go? What parts do I need?
> >
> > Tyson Varosyan
> > Technical Manager, Uptime Technical Solutions LLC.
> > tyson at up-times.com
> > www.up-times.com
> > 206-715-TECH (8324)
> >
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