Anybody tried this?

[Ed Kellock]

Actually, the engine in an '88 90q is the 2.3 liter NG engine which
runs newer version of CIS.  Not sure how much this would change the
equation but thought it might be relevant.


On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 11:35:04 -0700, Bernard Littau
<bernard.littau at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Mitchell,
> 
> I have not done this per se, but I've been involved with a few
> upgrades such as this.
> 
> Your engine is an Audi 2.2 liter Inline 5.
> 
> You will likely want to do an engine swap, but you'll keep your A/C (I
> can see why you want the A/C in SC, I visit there from Seattle from
> time-to-time).
> 
> The engine that gives you the most bang for the buck, and is a easy
> mechanical swap is the Audi MC engine code turbo I5.  It's from the
> 1986-1988 Audi 5000 turbo quattro.  It is mostly a direct replacement
> for your current engine, with the turbo goodies, and some helpful
> internal improvements such as oil sprayers on the pistons to help with
> cooling.
> 
> There are people who have bolted on the turbo goodies to the non-turbo
> engine, so that is an option, but the MC swap will likely be more
> durable.
> 
> Now, in the old days, the hard part of such a swap was moving the
> engine management system.  That involved stripping the wiring harness,
> ECU and various sensors out of the donor car, and cobbling it together
> into the recipient.  It was a daunting task.  Today, however, you
> wouldn't want to do that.  Just replace the whole 1980 style fuel
> injection system with a modern kit fuel injection system.
> 
> Depending on how technical you are, megasquirt is a very good starting
> point.  You do it youself, but it has a lot of support for DIY types.
> There are many MC engines converted to Megasquirt, so you can get
> advice and initial tuning maps from people.
> 
> A more upscale unit would be Javad's EFI034; costs a bit more, is a
> bit better.  There are commercial ones that cost even more than these
> two, but they are not as sorted out for the Audi application.  I'd
> stick with one of these.  I have a megasquirt, but not on my '88 5ktq.
> I'm thinking of going EFI034 for my Audi.
> 
> The modern EFI units avoid the need for much of the FI plumbing from
> the original MC donor.  Between not needing the wiring and ECU and not
> needing to fit the MC airbox and  other plumbing, its a huge win to go
> with an EFI upgrade as well.  I don't think anyone would do a
> wiring/ECU swap today.
> 
> Take a look at:
> http://www.80tq.com/
> http://www.034efi.com/
> http://www.bgsoflex.com/megasquirt.html
> 
> BTW the stock MC engine has 162 HP.  A used one should cost around
> $500.  With EFI and perhaps a stiffer wastegate spring, you can easily
> get to 250 HP.  With a better turbo ($1500 ) and a better Intercooler
> (not sure of the $$$, but likely $1000 or so) you can get above 300
> HP.
> 
> You'll be very sorry you asked this question and very sorry you looked
> at those sites :-)
> 
> Best,
> 
> Bernard Littau
> Woodinville, WA
> '88 5ktq
> 
> On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 10:01:12 -0500, Haskins Mitchell S TSgt 437
> 
> 
> APS/TRP <mitchell.haskins at charleston.af.mil> wrote:
> > I recently came into a bit of money, and would like to add some 'forced
> > induction' to my 1988 Audi 90 Quattro.  As I live in South Carolina, an
> > engine-swap is out of the question because I'd lose my A/C.  If anybody
> > knows of a way to add a turbo (custom downpipe), or supercharger without
> > removing my A/C, would you please share your story here with us?
> >
> > Thanks in advance!
> >
> > Mitchell S. Haskins
> >
> > 1988 Audi 90 Quattro
> >
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