Any CIS-E III experts?
Ed Kellock
ekellock at gmail.com
Fri Oct 29 22:06:37 EDT 2004
The CIS III is paired with a 10:1 compression ratio. Not sure the old
system would be a great idea. I believe one of the main reasons for
the CIS III is its ability to sense knock and manage the engine.
Ed
On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 19:05:17 -0600 (MDT), Eric S
<scirocco at vintagewatercooleds.com> wrote:
>
> Ok guys, my saga with the new 88 90Q continues.
>
> Massive intake leaks found and fixed (warped intake manifold if you would
> believe it was one of them)
>
> New O2, coolant temp sensors (both)
>
> Timing belt, cap, rotor, wires, plugs, ignition timing dead on.
>
> Sounds like it should run like a top now, right? Nope, 2 codes left:
>
> Wide Open Full Throttle Switch
>
> Mass Air Flow
>
> The throttle switch has to be in the wiring or the brain itself, all tests
> check out per the bentley, but the ECU does think the full throttle switch
> is being triggered constantly. (verified this with the DPR test) I have
> managed to get the DPR to read around 0 while running (compensating for
> the fact the ecu is trying to go full rich by adjusting the air flow plate
> position). So, I am left with a high idle that the ecu keeps pulling down
> (up down up down). And a car that is rather sluggish.
>
> The Air flow error really sucks, those potentiometers should not be messed
> with and are EXPENSIVE. Same unit used on VWs CIS-E Motronic...had my
> nightmares with those.
>
> So, my questions:
>
> Anyone run into the full switch senario before, even though the switches
> all check out? What did you do to solve? I'm about to unplug the ECU and
> start checking continuity at the pins to the connector at the TB.
>
> The Mass Airflow....my mechanic (whom so graciously "assists" me in my
> work at his shop) suggests I ditch the CIS-E III infavor of the older,
> simpler CIS-E from say a Quantum Syncro. He believes we can just swap the
> fuel dist and plug in the Quantum ECU to the CIS-E III harness and it will
> work perfectly. Anyone done it? Can you verify we won't have to swap the
> whole wiring harness? Considering that potentiometer is NOT a seperate
> replaceable part and you have to order the whole bottom half of the air
> flow sensor plate, at $600, I am very interested in ditching this stupid
> system.
>
> --
> Eric
> www.vintagewatercooleds.com
>
> 1981 Scirocco S (TDI swap project)
> 1988 Audi 90 Quattro
> 1990 Corrado TDI
> 1991 Cabriolet (2.0 crossflow 8v project)
>
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