Tiptronic transmission

[David]

No, I'm not confused. I know the difference between a real manual, DSG, normal automatic,  and a tiptronic automatic. I've driven all 4 (thanks to my work as a modertor on Fourtitude) and owned 3 out of 4. To me, the DSG is nice if you can't get a manual...but it's still an automatic. Sure, it doesn't have a torque converter...but it's still automatic.  I'd rather have my old Coupe GT with a real manual than a Audi RS4 with a DSG. Very few cars work well with automatics...and then only for specific purposes (like towing my boat, or as a daily driver for the wife). 

Dave
1987 CGT 2.3 MANUAL
2002 Jetta GLS 1.8T Tip
1985 Chevy Impala 9c1 Automatic
> 
> From: Taka Mizutani <t44tqtro at gmail.com>
> Date: 2005/08/25 Thu PM 12:54:17 EDT
> To: David <duandcc_forums at cox.net>
> CC: quattro at audifans.com
> Subject: Re: RE: Tiptronic transmission
> 
> David-
> Sorry, but DSG is NOT a slushbox.
> 
> DSG IS a manual transmission- it has two electronically engaged
> clutches and gears like a "real" manual gearbox. Two gears are engaged
> continually, but only one clutch is engaged. This way, gears can be
> changed very very quickly.
> 
> DSG does not drive like an automatic at all- very quick and smooth
> shifts, engine braking off-throttle. No coasting like an automatic.
> Very smooth kickdowns- no skipping of gears, they are downshifted
> sequentially, which is a little odd. Slight hesitation off the line in
> forward and reverse gears as the "clutch is let out."
> 
> You might be confusing the tiptronic/steptronic/geartronic type of
> automatic transmission with DSG. DSG has a lot more in common with
> Ferrari F1, Alfa Selecspeed and BMW SMG.
> 
> Audi's DSG isn't flawless- while I worked at a dealership, I heard
> from the service writers that there were some complaints about the
> gearbox in some of the A3s- one guy had his replaced with less than
> 500 miles on the car.
> 
> Taka
> 
> 
> On 8/25/05, David <duandcc_forums at cox.net> wrote:
> > Meh, DSG is still just a slush-box to me. Yes, a nice "high tech" slush box that may be superior to all other slushboxes...but still just another slush box...
> > 
> > Dave
> > 1987 CGT 2.3
> > SE VA
>