200 20v strange multiple hyd failures. (Acceptable solution)

John S. Lagnese jlagnese at massed.net
Mon Aug 29 10:23:56 EDT 2005


Sounds like when my house in North Conway, NH was broken into. The cop
wasn't at all interested in any evidence, only in questioning me! I never
heard from them again!
No fine, no interest is the right assessment!
John

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Glubrecht" <daveglu at hotmail.com>
To: "Brett Dikeman" <brett at cloud9.net>; "Kent McLean"
<kentmclean at mindspring.com>
Cc: <quattro at audifans.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: 200 20v strange multiple hyd failures. (Acceptable solution)


> Well I think I have the only possible explanation.
>
> Overboost was ruled out as it doesn't explain the ABS wiring or the clutch
> hose.  And the car was off.
> Vandalism was ruled out as none of the lines were cut with a sharp object,
> I'll send pic's.
> The car was also parked inside a fenced yard next to my bedroom window.
> There was a pool of fluid under where the car was parked, no trail except
> the point where I first applied brakes, but the car was parked on grass.
>
> Cops are worthless!  Since crime doesn't pay, they are only interested in
> something they can easily fine you for (speeding/seatbelt).
> I have personally done everything right to get someone caught with stuff
> from my burglarized house, including listing them as a suspect on the
police
> report and calling the police to their house when cornered with my stuff.
> And a confession that it was my stuff. No arrest, no nothing.  The cops
> wouldn't even allow me to get any of my stuff that filled the neighbors
yard
> as I had no proof that it was mine, no SN# on a clawfoot tub.
>  I am NOT whining, I have gotten over worse and I have had enough
fortunate
> things in my life to offset the bad.
>
> I am told that rockchuck's/marmot's will bite through hoses with a dull
> scissor action without chewing.  Add to this that my dog (a Scotty) was
> paying unusual attention to the car during the parked time, but these dogs
> are goofy anyway.  There also seems to be some light claw marks in the
> undercoating behind the Pass wheel, but this could be my dog chasing a
> mouse.
>
> I guess I am lucky that no serious wiring damage or other (that I have
found
> yet).
>
>     Dave G
>
>
>
>
>
> ---- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Brett Dikeman" <brett at cloud9.net>
> To: "Kent McLean" <kentmclean at mindspring.com>
> Cc: "David Glubrecht" <daveglu at hotmail.com>; <quattro at audifans.com>
> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 7:48 AM
> Subject: Re: 200 20v strange multiple hyd failures.
>
>
> >
> > On Aug 28, 2005, at 9:22 AM, Kent McLean wrote:
> >
> >> The burst lines could be due to old age, but it is possible the
> >> hydraulic pump is putting out too much pressure (I don't know
> >> how or why it would)
> >
> > ...or how it could affect the brake system, which is only linked to  the
> > pump's output by mechanical linkage.  The booster just amplifies  force
> > put on the MC, so the booster would have to fail as well.  I've  never
> > heard of a booster failing.
> >
> >> . Just speculation on my part. But that doesn't explain
> >> the ABS wires being cut/broken.
> >
> > Nope, it doesn't, particularly since the lines generally show signs  of
> > aging before they burst- they look dried out, they crack, they  bulge
out,
> > they feel soft-ish.  Granted stock lines on a 200q20v are  well past
when
> > they should have been replaced outright (I replaced  mine), but they
> > should still show signs.
> >
> >   Vandalism does explain things, however.  Cars don't just
spontaneously
> > burst multiple brake lines on different ends of the  car, ABS sensor
> > wires, etc sitting in the driveway. If the bursts had  happened while
the
> > car was being driven, David probably wouldn't be  talking to us right
now-
> > or would have a 200q20v-sized hole in his  garage door, at the least.
> >
> > Talk to the cops, and let them decide if the lines were tampered  with;
> > tell them it was too coincidental, and you're not sure, but you  can't
> > think of any other valid explanation for simultaneous failure  of
multiple
> > brake lines, including that of components you just  inspected recently,
> > that if they had failed while being driven the  car wouldn't have
> > stopped...and given the potential, you wanted to  report it and given
how
> > serious this would be if they were tampered  with, you'd like to have
> > someone take a look- someone who could judge  whether the lines were
> > tampered with or not.
> >
> > Even the simplest signs will be telling- are there pools of fluid by
> > where the wheels are, or a trail of brake fluid off the street?   It'll
> > stain the concrete/pavement, even if you've had some rain  recently; at
> > the least you'll see a different look to the driveway  when it is wet.
Is
> > there brake fluid all over the wheels, the wheel  well liner, etc?(any
> > leaking brake fluid will make a complete mess of  the undercarriage
'down
> > stream' if the car was being driven, as the  fluid will get blown all
over
> > everything).
> >
> > That said, you'd have to be fairly determined (and thin) to get to  the
> > clutch hose from under the car...or open the hood, obviously not
possible
> > with the car alarmed (yes, there's a hood switch for the  alarm).
Still,
> > I have no explanation for how you could have these  failures in your
> > driveway; if the car was being driven when all this  happened, obviously
> > you would have, um...noticed.
> >
> > Brett
> > -- 
> > "They that give up essential liberty to obtain temporary
> > safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Ben Franklin
> > http://www.users.cloud9.net/~brett/
> >
> >
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