dyno day yesterday (pics!)

brandon&trenna adams quattrorunner at earthlink.net
Mon May 2 12:02:56 EDT 2005


Don't worry denis, the photos are not a big deal. I don't know why anyone
would need them. Now the photos and video of javads car may be another
story. Brett does have a car I would not mind copying .
BA


> [Original Message]
> From: Denis <sparkplugvw at hotmail.com>
> To: <quattro at audifans.com>
> Date: 05/02/2005 8:51:18 AM
> Subject: Re: dyno day yesterday (pics!)
>
> Sorry Brett, my browser did not want to load the piccs, so the first
thing , and the only, i saw  ,was  that:
> All photos are Copyright 2004, Brett Dikeman and may not be copied or
used in derivative works without written permission.
> Many images are available for purchase; please contact me if you are
interested! 
>
> The temptation was to tuff , i did not resisted :-)
>
> I have a question, if i take pics on an Audi even (its an exemple) i can
do copyright on those pics ? even if its not all my cars ?
>
> Ðenis
>
>
>
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Brett Dikeman 
>   To: qlist 
>   Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 12:42 AM
>   Subject: dyno day yesterday (pics!)
>
>
>   Since things are extra quiet tonight, thought I'd share some photos  
>   from a dyno session Mark Chang and I went down to check out:
>
>   http://frank.mercea.net/zoph/photos.php?album_id=24
>
>   One of the top S4tt's put out 393 whp running on race gas and no  
>   exhaust past the downpipes.  Wasn't there to see the run, but it was  
>   reportedly very, very loud.
>
>   Mark's car is the Santorini S4, and mine is the black 200q20v.  I  
>   have a photo of the chart from the S6 (which had a TAP chip and  
>   modified/screwed down wastegate), but I managed to leave my charts  
>   over at a friend's house and haven't had a chance to pick them up yet  
>   to scan in.  After a little spritz with some water, the 200q20v  
>   managed 214whp running on 93 octane..I think torque approached 250 ft- 
>   lb early on.  Low end torque was much better than the S6, but the S6  
>   held HP and torque longer.
>
>      They were not clear about what correction factor was appropriate,  
>   if any; the owner mumbled something about their dyno reading "20%  
>   below a dynojet", but Ned says the III+ is only 277hp, and if you use  
>   that plus a 1.25 multiplier (which Garrett of GIAC fame says is  
>   appropriate for virtually any quattro, based on his experience  
>   dyno'ing stock Audis for a baseline), then you're looking at 300+ hp,  
>   which is extremely doubtful.  With just the drivetrain loss  
>   mulitplier, peak HP was basically 266-267HP; given that the car  
>   received exactly zero checks before all this, that doesn't seem  
>   hugely unreasonable.  This particular dyno was an eddy-current,  
>   constant load, if I remember correctly.  Any words of wisdom on this  
>   subject?  Anyone else dyno'd 200q20vs?  There was talk of this last  
>   year I think, but I  don't remember if anything came of it.
>
>   I'm hoping to get charts from all three runs eventually Apparently,  
>   "three runs, we'll do air/fuel and boost for extra" translated into  
>   "we'll give you ONE chart of  your best of three PULLS, done in some  
>   funky 'shootout mode', and we'll do A/F, but no boost because if we  
>   do boost for you, everyone else will want it too, even though you're  
>   paying extra.  But we'll do boost for one guy anyway."  I made it  
>   clear on the "customer survey" I wanted all three sets of charts...
>
>   Hearing the car going full-bore was worth it though!
>
>   Brett
>
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