veggie oil?? -->> Try Water ?

[Fred Munro]

The torch idea I can buy. Water + electricity = hydrogen + oxygen. Hydrogen
+ oxygen + source of ignition = big bang or hot flame + water, depending on
conditions. My gut tells me the energy produced by the flame is probably
pretty close to that input by the electricity to split the water, so why not
save yourself the trouble and use a plasma arc cutting torch?

The hybrid car now - I'm a bit sceptical on that....although I could drive
from Texas to Nevada on regular gas using 2 gallons of water in a water
injection system to quench detonation....

Fred Munro
'94 S4


-----Original Message-----
From: quattro-bounces at audifans.com
[mailto:quattro-bounces at audifans.com]On Behalf Of Stephen Gutierrez
Sent: September 27, 2005 7:31 PM
To: quattro at audifans.com
Subject: RE: veggie oil?? -->> Try Water ?



about this whole water powered thing.
I saw a guy on the local news who developed a
cutting torch which ran off of water and electricity.
the torch had a flame, quote, "as hot as the sun." he
burnt a hole through charcoal in a matter of seconds.
when he turned it off the tip of the torch was cool to
the touch.

he made a hybrid car(could run off of gas or water).
he drove from i think texas to nevada on 2 gallons of
water.

the news reporter went on to say that uncle sam were
producing hummer with the technology and going to use
them in iraq as a test to see if it is feasible in the
real world.


--- Lyle <lws at o-o.yi.org> wrote:

> "Will water be the fuel of the future to power
> aircraft and spacecraft?"
>
> What a load of crap.  Propellant it was, not fuel,
> not power.  Cool, yes.
> Clever even.  But not fuel.  The fuel was probably
> uranium.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: quattro-bounces at audifans.com
> [mailto:quattro-bounces at audifans.com] On
> Behalf Of mike
> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 8:49 AM
> To: quattro at audifans.com
> Subject: Re: veggie oil?? -->> Try Water ?
>
>
> Hmmm....a plane that flies by having aluminium
> vaporised by lasers
>
> I think i'll pass on that one, although Al Qaeda
> might
> be interested
>
> Mike
>
> --- "Cat     ^. .^   ~" <iceisit at earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > "WATER: THE ULTIMATE  PROPELLANT
> >
> > "Will water be the fuel of the future to power
> > aircraft and spacecraft?
> >
> > "If so, mankind will be employing a technology of
> > the god's and, as in other fields, modern science
> > will be only catching up with ancient knowledge.
> >
> > "The news of the possible use of water as an
> > abundant and clean resource as the "fuel" for jet
> > propulsion comes from the Tokyo Institute of
> > Technology that has been developing technologies
> > for powering small un-piloted planes by
> > subjecting their "engines" to laser beams fired
> > from the ground or from satellites.  In what has
> > been hailed as a great success, the Tokyo team
> > reported in the June 10 issue of Applied Physics
> > that they made a tiny paper "plane" fly by
> > subjecting its "motor" of aluminum plates to
> > laser beams.  Causing minute amounts of the metal
> > to vaporize, a jet stream was achieved that cause
> > the plane to soar.
> >
> > "The experiment thus attained the trick of
> > creating an ejected jet of some mass that pushed
> > the plane forward.  In regular jet planes, the
> > jet is created by burning petroleum fuel and
> > ejecting the hot gas.  In the Tokyo experiment,
> > the heat was provided by the laser beam, the jet
> > by the evaporated aluminum.  To scale the
> > propulsion system up to full size, Takashi Yabe,
> > head of the Tokyo team, proposed using water as
> > the propellant.    Water can be harvested from
> > the atmosphere as the plane files,î he said.
> > Reporting the experiment and the water-use idea,
> > the journal New Scientist (15 June 2002)
> > illustrated the futuristic "water engineî "
> > ........  "
> >
> >
>
http://www.20kweb.com/weird_stuff/water_the_ultimate_propellant.html
> >
> > --
> > Cheers,  Fay
> >
> > ^. .^   ~
> >
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