re. 013 vs 016 transmissions

[Ben Swann]

Roy,

The CGT transmission I have  that you are interested in is best as I know an 
016 unit from a FWD '84 Coupe GT.

Numbers again:
and I don't know why the number prefix contain 013 in it, as these trannys 
are 016 units:

013 301 211C

 also:

 3Z 13123

Perhaps Ti - our resident expert on Audi parts can explain or clarify  the 
descrepancy in the numbers - where is that email I sent you that detailed 
the numbers and where I read them - one on the bellhousing and one on the 
diff. ??  I'm not finding a copy of that email or in my notes.

This transmission is still attached to the 5 cyl engine that was pulled from 
an '84 Coupe GT, so I know there is no mixup with another FWD trans. 
Perhaps there are some other numbers I can read on it, but kind of difficult 
at present to lift the engine and trans. to see them.

Ben

[From: Mike Arman <Armanmik at earthlink.net>
Subject: 013 vs 016 transmissions
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> Roy Wendell <erwendell at mac.com>
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> I'm looking at using an audi transaxle in an electric powered formula car 
> that my university runs.
 It would be used in place of the very expensive Hewland gearbox that's 
currently installed. Although light, the Hewland has neither the correct 
ratios nor the torque capacity for our current power train.
 I know that the 016 fwd gearbox is being used sucessfully in mid engine v8 
powered kit cars and I  have experience with the quattro version so I'm 
trying to source one.
The only problem is that  fwd 016 gearboxs don't seem very common. I do 
however have a line on an 013 from an 84 coupe gt thanks to this list. What 
I need to know is what are the differences between the 013 and 016 coded 
boxes? They have similar application ie fwd 5 cylinder VAG products. I know 
that they have
different gear and final drive ratios but is that it?


Cody Forbes has an 016 FWD gearbox - he got it from me when he got the pile 
of 5 cyl parts. 5 speed 2wd 5000s are not all that rare, but of course most 
of the 5000s in junkyards are AT because the AT blew.

Hydraulic clutch, basically has a hole in the bellhousing for the slave 
cylinder. With an electric motor, you don't even need a clutch, because an 
electric motor develops maximum torque at 0 rpm.

Best Regards,

Mike Arman]


[Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 17:37:58 -0800 (PST)
From: ti at amb.org (Ti Kan)
Subject: Re: 013 vs 016 transmissions
To: erwendell at mac.com (Roy Wendell)
Cc: quattro at audifans.com
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Roy Wendell writes:
> I'm looking at using an audi transaxle in an electric powered formula
> car that my university runs. It would be used in place of the very
> expensive Hewland gearbox that's currently installed. Although light,
> the Hewland has neither the correct ratios nor the torque capacity for
> our current power train. I know that the 016 fwd gearbox is being used
> sucessfully in mid engine v8 powered kit cars and I have experience with
> the quattro version so I'm trying to source one. The only problem is
> that fwd 016 gearboxs don't seem very common. I do however have a line
> on an 013 from an 84 coupe gt thanks to this list. What I need to know
> is what are the differences between the 013 and 016 coded boxes? They
> have similar application ie fwd 5 cylinder VAG products. I know that
> they have different gear and final drive ratios but is that it?

The 013 is the 5-speed front drive box for 4-cylinder cars.  Check
your code number or the donor car again...  An '84 coupe GT (if it's
got a 5-cylinder engine) cannot have a 013.

-Ti]