Enviro-Safe

[Alex Kowalski]

Apparently it is, I didn't read that part of the FAQ.  Now I'm going to take
the car to a refrigerant specialist, have it evacuated and retrofitted
completely.  There goes $1,000.  Great.

Alex Kowalski
'87 5KCSTQ ($1,000 poorer)
'86 5KCSTQ (no engine until August now)




On 6/19/06, Jim Jordan <j8k3sp00n at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Sorry for the top post.  The ES web site FAQ says it's "illegal"(in the
> US)
> to mix one refrigerant with another;  yet I presume I could buy it for use
> in the US.  What am I missing here?
>
> Sounds a little too good to be true.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Jim Jordan
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Alex Kowalski [mailto:hypereutectic1 at gmail.com]
> >Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 9:08 PM
> >To: quattro at audifans.com
> >Cc: benswann at comcast.net
> >Subject: Re: FW: Your air conditioning suggestion
> >
> >Ben forwarded my reply to him back to this List and I'll chime
> >in again.
> >
> >First off, I misspoke in the original email to him.
> >Envirocare is actually
> >Enviro-Safe:
> >
> >http://www.es-refrigerants.com/
> >
> >The system in my '87 was functional but the temperatures were
> >creeping up gradually.  I believe that this was due to a very
> >gradual coolant loss over the life of the car (which only has
> >~56,000 miles on the clock.)  Whatever leaks exist have been
> >very small.
> >
> >The Enviro-Safe refrigerant is a hydrocarbon-based
> >refrigerant, in fact, I believe it is pharmaceutical-grade
> >isobutane (lighter fluid) with a heavy pine scent added.  This
> >sounds crazy, but it really isn't.  Before you jump to any
> >rash judgments, read some of the research on their site and do
> >a little thinking.  In fact, the use of chloroflourinated
> >gases in automotive A/C systems is really much, much worse.
> >
> >I charged the system with only one can of this refrigerant and
> >my center-vent temps. hit a low of 38 degrees on a 75 degree
> >day in high humidity.  That's remarkable.  Thanks again, Ben.
> >I don't know why more people aren't using this refrigerant,
> >especially in otherwise functional systems like mine, except
> >because they don't know about it and haven't thought about why
> >they think they need to spend hundreds of dollars on an R134a retrofit.
> >
> >Alex Kowalski
> >'87 5KCSTQ (Blowing cool, cool air again -- reliably and at low cost)
> >'86 5KCSTQ (Soon to be doing the same)
> >
> >
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