Enviro-Safe

[Ben Swann]

You are not supposed to mix - ala the law.  But it would work fine if it was.

Hey guys - lighten up on this matter.  What professional refrigeration
specialists do should be monitored and done by the book.  IMO more Freon has
been dumped by folks due to this law than if a more sensible law had been
passed that enables one to do this more economically.

Think about it.

Ben

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Jordan [mailto:superba at comcast.net] 
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 1:09 AM
To: 'Alex Kowalski'; quattro at audifans.com
Cc: benswann at comcast.net
Subject: Enviro-Safe

Hi,

Sorry for the top post.  The ES web site FAQ says it's "illegal"(in the US)
to mix one refrigerant with another;  yet I presume I could buy it for use
in the US.  What am I missing here?

Sounds a little too good to be true.

Cheers!

Jim Jordan

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Alex Kowalski [mailto:hypereutectic1 at gmail.com] 
>Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 9:08 PM
>To: quattro at audifans.com
>Cc: benswann at comcast.net
>Subject: Re: FW: Your air conditioning suggestion
>
>Ben forwarded my reply to him back to this List and I'll chime 
>in again.
>
>First off, I misspoke in the original email to him.  
>Envirocare is actually
>Enviro-Safe:
>
>http://www.es-refrigerants.com/
>
>The system in my '87 was functional but the temperatures were 
>creeping up gradually.  I believe that this was due to a very 
>gradual coolant loss over the life of the car (which only has 
>~56,000 miles on the clock.)  Whatever leaks exist have been 
>very small.
>
>The Enviro-Safe refrigerant is a hydrocarbon-based 
>refrigerant, in fact, I believe it is pharmaceutical-grade 
>isobutane (lighter fluid) with a heavy pine scent added.  This 
>sounds crazy, but it really isn't.  Before you jump to any 
>rash judgments, read some of the research on their site and do 
>a little thinking.  In fact, the use of chloroflourinated 
>gases in automotive A/C systems is really much, much worse.
>
>I charged the system with only one can of this refrigerant and 
>my center-vent temps. hit a low of 38 degrees on a 75 degree 
>day in high humidity.  That's remarkable.  Thanks again, Ben.  
>I don't know why more people aren't using this refrigerant, 
>especially in otherwise functional systems like mine, except 
>because they don't know about it and haven't thought about why 
>they think they need to spend hundreds of dollars on an R134a retrofit.
>
>Alex Kowalski
>'87 5KCSTQ (Blowing cool, cool air again -- reliably and at low cost)
>'86 5KCSTQ (Soon to be doing the same)
>
>