CIS Problem?--AGAIN!!!

Denis sparkplugvw at hotmail.com
Tue Jun 20 14:33:35 EDT 2006


I solved all my problems when i installed a Megasquirt.
Denis
www.efi4tuning.com
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: L DC 
  To: Cody Forbes ; Ben Swann 
  Cc: quains at sbcglobal.net ; quattro at audifans.com 
  Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 12:37 PM
  Subject: Re: CIS Problem?--AGAIN!!!


  Many Thanks again Cody!!

  Could you please clarify a few things?

  Cody Wrote:

  < You are correct on leaking fuel into the combustion
  > chamber, which is why I don't think you have bad
  > injectors.

  So, if the car had leaky fuel injectors, the car would
  still start, but it would run crappy, right?

  I mean, fuel + air + spark in the combustion chamber
  will make the car start, albeit crappy perhaps and
  might shut off if the combination is not right.

  > Other possible pressure leak-downs occur at the
  check > valve on the fuel pump....

  So far I'm ruling this one out given the fuel pump,
  Pierburg, came with a brand new check valve.

  >...and the pressure accumulator in front of the right
  rear wheel under the car.

  This could be a possibility as I would bet this car,
  as most its era, has the original pressure accumulator


  This a pic of the accumulator from your web site,
  right Cody?

  http://jcforbes.com/jcfpics/albums/codysaudi/accumulator1.sized.jpg

  Do you know if a part from an Audi non T, not Q from
  either a 5K or 100 is interchangeable with that of the
  5KTQ?

  In what other places could there be a pressure
  leak-down, aside from the obvious fuel lines running
  under the car or engine bay?

  But even with a pressure leak-down, isn't there still
  enough pressure being built by the fuel pump to at
  least make the car start? 

  It almost seems to me that the car is simply not
  getting fuel delivered to the combustion chamber. 

  Maybe I'll disconnect the fuel line leading to the
  fuel filter and if I get fuel there and I will pull
  one of the fuel injectors to see if spraying. 


  So which do you recommend Cody, option 2 or 3?

  > Option 2:
  > Factory wiring. You can use the much safer method of
  > using the factory wiring so the pump automatically 
  > turns off if the engine stops (ie. in event of an
  > accident). This is the most simple method, but it
  > does leave the OEM fuel pump fuse and relay in the 
  > way in case they go bad. For this method follow the 
  > diagram I made exactly.

  >EOM fuel pump.... meaning if anything goes bad in
  that wiring, the pump won't run, right?

  Also, by taking this route I assume I will be using
  the "green and yellow" wire that comes from the OEM
  fuel p relay and not from any nearby hot wire,
  correct? 

  > Option 3:
  > Direct to ECU. You can run a whole new wire all the 
  > way to the ECU. 
  > It's alot more work, but I recomend the second
  > choice.With this choice it's actually slightly
  > different then the wire diagram I made. The ECU 
  > turns the GROUND on and off, not the positive, so 
  > you have to run the wire from the ECU to the new
  > relay (where I labeled "from green and yellow wire),

  > then the other wire from the coil of the relay 
  > (where I labeled "Chassis Ground")goes to the
  > battery positive. The other two go exactly how I did
  > the diagram. 
  > The pin on the ECU connector is pin #21 
  >
  http://www.sjmautotechnik.com/trouble_shooting/pinout.html#ten).

  For this method, I assume the relay labeled "From
  Battery + " would then go to a chissis ground, right?

  Would the wire running from the new relay to pin 21 on
  the ECU hook up easily or would it require soldering? 

  Just curious, what happens to the other wires that the
  fuel pump hook up to?

  One is a ground, the other would hook up to the wire
  (hot) running from the new relay, what about the other
  2? I know 1 of those other 2 wires is a hot wire also,
  can't recall on the other.

  Thanks again Cody,


  -Louis


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