Geraint Lloyd wrote: > I've been gibbering on about using 4" but was talking > out of my bottom. Maybe I had too much british beef in > the 90s and have short term memory problems Sorry to hear that, Geraint. The medical term for that condition is "CRS" -- Can't Remember Sh!t. HTH. :) -- Kent McLean '94 100 S Avant, "Moody" '89 200 TQ, "Bad Puppy" up in smoke