head gasket failure - now dumb Audi decisions

[Mitchell Segal]

Excuse me, but are you calling me bone-headed, because YOU mis-understood my
explanation?  I did NOT say anywhere that I was sitting with the car off,
waiting for someone to park in front of me.  Try reading what I wrote!

I said I had been sitting waiting for someone (ie: already parked, like on a
street or in a parking lot, with the car off, listening to the radio), AND
THEN someone else in front of me, who is say trying to park, comes very
close to hitting my car, so I wanted to warn them by honking, but the horn
doesn't work.  Or say you were waiting to pick someone up, and you see them
come out of the building, and you want to honk to get their attention.  You
can't with the Audis, unless you turn the key on.  I think that's stupid.

What, you've never sat in your car with the car off, while you wait for
someone to run in to the bank or someplace?  What do you do, you sit there
idling your gas guzzler for hours, wasting fuel and the environment?  Why
don't you calm down a little bit and try reading what people write, or at
least be a little more polite before you start name calling.

Mitchell

P.s. Every Japanese car I've ever been in, also allows the lights and horn
to work all the time, without the key.  Audis are the first cars I've even
seen that turns off the horn without the key.  I was just trying to make a
point, that something that is safety related should work all the time.



-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Cappuccio [mailto:chris at nmedia.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 6:27 PM
To: Mitchell Segal
Cc: 'erwendell at mac.com'; 'quattro at audifans.com'
Subject: Re: head gasket failure - now dumb Audi decisions


Mitchell Segal [MSegal at nsbgroup.com] wrote:
> 
> No, my beef is, that the HORN does not work unless the key is on.  
> Now, the horn to me, should be a safety device, like the lights and 
> hazards, it should work ALL the time.  On several occasions I have 
> been sitting in my car, waiting for someone, and a guy in front of me 
> is backing up and about to hit me.  I wanted to honk him, to warn him, 
> only to discover I have no horn at all, unless the key is on.
> 
> This to me is a case of the Audi engineers being a little bone-headed.  
> Why go to the trouble to disable the horn without the key (something 
> that only works so long as you press the button anyways, so it's not 
> like you can leave it on and walk away), but they allow you to leave 
> radio on for a long time, which is something that you could more 
> easily do, and which can drain the battery without you knowing it.

Let me get this straight....

You sit around in your car with everyting off, waiting for people to park in
front of you.
These people even seem like they might back up in to you.
And Audi engineers are the bone-headed ones?

FWIW, Ford gives you the horn and lights at all times, and Volvo even turns
off your headlights whenever you turn the car off.