Do I want an Optima?
E. Roy Wendell IV
erwendell at mac.com
Tue Sep 19 20:26:34 EDT 2006
> I was getting ready to buy an Optima Red Top for my e//S2 and was
> told I
> might not be doing the right thing.
>
> The battery is currently in the trunk area and I will be relocating to
> under the rear seat in a stock S2 battery box. I figured an Optima
> would be the right choice as it is a vent-free battery and the battery
> will be in the passenger compartment.
>
> I went to pick one up at Advance Auto and the store employee told me
> that I should have a vented battery. She said that a vented battery
> would exhaust the fumes outside the car. If I had an Optima I might
> exhaust any fumes inside the car - not good.
>
> OK, OK, I know...it was a discount auto parts joint with a likely
> less-than-pro clerk, but it did make me think.
>
> Do I need an Optima? (I guess not since the stock S2 battery was
> vented
> - the vent hose in still in the box I bought)
>
> Do I even want an Optima?
>
> TIA,
> Dave Kase
I know I'm weighing in a little late on this one (been busy fixing
airplanes) but because I have a lot of experience with these things I
wanted to go on record anyway. My school has an electric powered open
wheel race car that has 28 Optimas on board and we have multiple
battery packs. We are constantly using, capacity testing, and
charging these things.
What they are not is "sealed" "dry cell" or any other adjective
Optima, their promoters, or self proclaimed experts apply to them.
They are a lead acid battery at the core. They do have a liquid
electrolyte of sulfuric acid. If you poke a hole in the side of the
case acid will not gush out of the hole but if you poke your finger
in you will get acid all over it. This is because the space between
the plates is filled with fiberglass mat. The mat wicks up and holds
the electrolyte but at the same time allows the various ions within
it to transfer between the plates thus requiring less electrolyte
than a conventional lead acid battery. This class of lead acid
batteries is know as AGM for Absorbed Glass Mat and there are many
others including the Concord, Hawker Genesis, Odyssey, and others.
The unique feature is the fact that the plates for each cell are
wound up into a cylinder rather than just left in a rectangular
shape. AGM batteries in general have a lower internal resistance than
a conventional flooded cell battery and therefore a higher maximum
current. This feature is useful in really really cold climates or
very high demand situations such as electric race cars or starting
jet engines.
Now to the "sealed" part of the equation. They are not technically
sealed but are instead part of another lead acid technology called
valve regulated gas recombinate batteries. In this respect they are
like all "maintenance free" lead acid batteries where the gasses that
are generated during normal operation are forced to recombine into
water by way of pressure. This means that the case is under
considerable pressure during normal operation which for safety
reasons means that there must be a pressure relief valve. If you look
at the top of an Optima you will see two white discs that are in fact
filters that sit on top of the pressure relief valves. If the
internal case pressure gets high enough these valves will open and
vent gasses if the batter is upright and liquid if oriented any other
way. If there is any discoloration of the disc then the battery has
vented at some point and due to the decreased electrolyte content
will have a reduced capacity. Granted, during normal operation this
won't happen. The listed exception is excessive charge current which
produces gas at too rapid a rate and therefore the battery vents.
This would occur is the voltage regulator failed in a short condition
which is fairly common. I have personal experience however of an
Optima venting under discharge and as it was installed sideways there
was a puddle of electrolyte in the battery box. That battery went
straight to the recycle pile. The discharge rate wasn't excessive but
it was a sustained discharge such as would occur if the charging
system failed.
Now as to my opinion. While interesting from a technical point of
view, I don't see any advantage of spending the extra money on the
Optima for your application. It's not lighter than the standard
battery and you don't require the high current rating because your
starting system was designed for conventional batteries. If you were
looking to install a much smaller battery to save weight than an AGM
battery makes sense because they have a much higher CCA rating than
an equivalent size conventional battery. This is why a little PC680
Odyssey can start a full size car. What isn't apparent to most people
though is that you can't get something for nothing. A smaller battery
has less capacity so if the charging system quits in a vehicle
equipped with one of those tiny batteries they would be lucky to get
to the next interstate exit before the car comes to a halt. You also
can't count on any "sealed" battery to never vent gas into the
interior where as the proper battery with the vent hose connection
can't. As a bonus, the vented battery will last longer provided you
think about topping off the cells with distilled water. Also, the
professor who is the advisor for the race team says that Optimas are
inappropriate for any application where they will be subject to a
constant overcharge such as in an automotive electrical system. I
can't remember the exact reason but I defer to him on this point.
Roy Wendell
erwendell at mac.com
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