[urq] 80's Audi were Below average in NHTSA crash test . Audi A4 bumpers are well rated

[LL - NY]

No, the type 85 did not have Procon-Ten. Fortunately I never had to find out

the hard way. In a way, I guess mine was too slow, as I got hit (twice) from
behind.

LL - NY, where NY'ers must be color blind to Tornado Red.

On 8/17/07, Todd Phenneger <tquattroguy at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I thought the Type 85 was the first car with Pro-Con 10.  Isnt that what
> it
> debuted on?
>
>
> > From: Ingo Rautenberg <ingo.rautenberg at gmail.com>
> > Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 17:30:59 -0400
> > To: steven j <michellepfeiffersx at yahoo.com>
> > Cc: urq list <urq at audifans.com>, Tony Hoffman <auditony at gmail.com>,
> Quattro
> > List <quattro at audifans.com>, LL - NY <larrycleung at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [urq] 80's Audi were Below average in NHTSA crash test .
> Audi A4
> > bumpers are well rated
> >
> > Actually, they were also on the V8 and with airbags.  Plus I believe
> > the Ur S-cars also had it...
> >
> > On Aug 17, 2007, at 5:05 PM, steven j wrote:
> >
> >> I've been looking at the NHTSA crash tests since they
> >> came out in about 1979.   The 1985-ish Audi 5000 got a
> >> horrible crash rating.  With the steering rack on the
> >> firewall and that 5cyl going to the bumper the
> >> steering wheel was pushed back in a crash delivering a
> >> punch to the drivers head.  The 4000's tested at the
> >> time were just the 4cyls - and the results weren't as
> >> bad as the 5000, probably because the missing cylinder
> >> allowed  an extra 5 inches before it started pushing
> >> the steering rack back.  One would imagine a 5cyl in
> >> the type 85 would be worse than the 5000 crash test.
> >> Of course if you have an offset crash - and the engine
> >> doesn't get pushed back - the car is probably fine.
> >> For around 1989 Audi introduced PRO-CON-TEN in the 100
> >> and 200 where cables push the engine forward in a
> >> crash and those cars cut driver head injury to low
> >> levels.
> >>
> >> I think when airbags came the pro-con-ten cables might
> >> not have been installed, but they were on the 100/200
> >> only.   Feel free to correct me on details.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --- Ed Kellock <ekellock at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> ISTR that the 4k series cars were one of the highest
> >>> rated chassis of
> >>> their time in crashworthiness.
> >>>
> >>> Ed
> >>>
> >>> On 8/16/07, LL - NY <larrycleung at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> Having seen some of the Type 85's in the wrecking
> >>> yard, I'd venture a guess
> >>>> that
> >>>> you didn't go "straight in" in your accident. The
> >>> 4K's passenger compartment
> >>>> seems to buckle in a header, at least based upon
> >>> empirical forensic analysis
> >>>> at the wrecking yard, I think you were lucky.
> >>>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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