AWD systems......

[Shawn Manny]

Agreed on the subaru tail symptoms in snow. The tq transfer on slick
surfaces is constantly trying to find grip between the front and rear ends.
The quattro is locked in so there is no hunting between axles. I noticed the
amazing stability this weekend while flying over loose gravel,ud and clay.
The car just felt solid and stable, my subaru would have been a bit
twitchier (which in some cases is good as it allows quicker directional
changes) but would have worn me out much quicker like LL-NY said. Either way
its an involving experience in either car, but Im not about to subject my
daily to 550 miles of stage road use.

Shawn


On 2/27/07, LL - NY <larrycleung at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> It's been years since I've driven my 4KQ (which was, in my recollection,
> the most
> direct feedback feeling Audi I've owned) but based on memory, Shawn's
> description
> of the 4KQ seems spot on. As for the Saabaru (WRX with Swedish clothing) I
> guess
> I don't really notice anything going on, but typically in the snow around
> here, it's
> hard to play (there truely is no room for mistakes, and few corners of
> speeds where
> one would be willing to make mistakes) so most of the torque transfer I DO
> notice
> is at Autocross', where it's possible to feel the torque transfer to the
> rear on turn
> exit. FWIW, as I've stated earlier, in really heavy thick snow (had to
> slog through
> 9 - 14" finally measured where it had gotten up to on the car) the tail
> kept trying
> to kick out under power more noticably than any of my q's ever did. Still
> easily
> controlled, but much more involving for the duration of the drive (8 miles
> took
> 22 minutes). For a long cruise in heavy snow conditions, I'd much rather
> be
> in a quattro, I'd be a lot more refreshed than in the Saabaru.
>
> LL - NY
>
> On 2/26/07, Shawn Manny <shawn.manny at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > After rallying my 4kq last weekend and driving a WRX daily im always
> > amazed
> > at how different the awd platforms really are. The quattro 1 system in
> > my
> > 4kq is much more direct and mechanical, you can feel it through the
> > controls
> > and in the seat. The subaru is so smooth you cant tell its doing its
> > thing
> > unless you catch it off guard...then you feel the viscous diff's doing
> > there
> > guessing game as to who is going to get the power. If I could have the
> > quattro 1 system with my boxer motor I'd be verrrry happy...now there's
> > a
> > project.
> >
> > Shawn
> >
> >
> > On 2/26/07, Tony Hoffman <auditony at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > So all this talk about the different AWD systems has me thinking. I
> > like
> > > the
> > > gen 1 quattro with the diff locks, love the torsen based systems, and
> > > really
> > > like the traction on the first get A4's. That's as new as I"ve driven
> > on
> > > snow. I've also driven the TT in snow, and don't really like it. Like
> > > several said, it's not very predictable, or at least not compared to
> > the
> > > 4000Q and V8Q I currently drive. Any other TT drivers? I would like to
> > try
> > > one with the haldex controler installed, however.
> > >
> > > Which seads me to the next question, does anyone know what system is
> > used
> > > on
> > > a CR-V? I've driven one in the snow, and I hated it. My Mom also
> > disliked
> > > it. She said her Mustang (on snows) is more stable in the snow. I'd
> > agree,
> > > BTW. In fact, I'd liken it to that early Subaru system that's been
> > talked
> > > about. It seemed to do nothing, then kick in and everything at once.
> > >
> > > Tony Hoffman
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