[s-cars] Q7 ramblings

Joshua van Tol josh at spiny.com
Sun Mar 4 11:18:36 EST 2007 

Actually, they did. Galvanized bodies on Audi's didn't start until  
the mid 80's. Perhaps they rusted a bit slower due to better  
undercoating, better paint, and better construction, but they still  
rusted.


On Mar 4, 2007, at 9:17 AM, Mark Strangways wrote:

> Audis :-)
>
> Mark
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joe Pizzimenti" <joe.pizzimenti at gmail.com>
> To: <calvinlc at earthlink.net>
> Cc: <DGraber460 at aol.com>; <quattro at audifans.com>;
> <s-car-list at www.audifans.com>
> Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 8:30 AM
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Q7 ramblings
>
>
>> What cars from that era did't rust?
>>
>> Joe, playing Devil's Advocate, Pizzo
>>
>> On 3/4/07, calvinlc at earthlink.net <calvinlc at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> It was about the last year of the 280Z, right before they  
>>> switched to the
>>> 300Z...let's say 1982 or 1983.  I was just starting to get  
>>> interested in
>>> cars that weren't matchbox cars :)  It was one of many examples,  
>>> in my
>>> opinion, of how consumer reports doesn't know their butt from a  
>>> hole in
>>> the
>>> ground about cars.
>>> --Calvin
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Joe Pizzimenti [mailto:joe.pizzimenti at gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 8:08 AM
>>> To: calvinlc at earthlink.net
>>> Cc: Ez Veedub; t44tqtro at gmail.com; DGraber460 at aol.com;
>>> quattro at audifans.com; s-car-list at www.audifans.com
>>> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Q7 ramblings
>>>
>>>
>>> What year did they rate the 280Z & how old was the car at the time?
>>>
>>> On 3/3/07, calvinlc at earthlink.net <calvinlc at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>> Things have changed for Lexus, they are now ranked 5th in 07 by
>>>>> Consumer
>>>> Reports
>>>>
>>>> Remember, consumer reports is the same magazine that brought us the
>>>> "Excellent" ratings for Datsun 280Z brakes and body....hmmm how  
>>>> many
>>>> rust
>>>> free 280Z's have you ever seen outside of a hermetically sealed
>>>> chamber?
>>>> Any magazine that thinks that either has idiots working for them or
>>>> they
>>> are
>>>> on the take.  On top of that there is an issue with some new  
>>>> Sony LCD
>>>> TVs
>>>> that hundreds of people have written to them complaining about  
>>>> and they
>>>> won't change their rating.  Hmmmmm....I wonder why?
>>>>
>>>> --Calvin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com
>>>> [mailto:s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com]On Behalf Of Ez Veedub
>>>> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 7:06 AM
>>>> To: t44tqtro at gmail.com; DGraber460 at aol.com
>>>> Cc: quattro at audifans.com; s-car-list at www.audifans.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Q7 ramblings
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Things have changed for Lexus, they are now ranked 5th in 07 by
>>>> Consumer
>>>> Reports. They were 1st in 06. And MB in at the bottom at 36.  
>>>> Audi is
>>> ranked
>>>> 12th just to let you know. And yes, Lexus sells car very well in  
>>>> the
>>>> US,
>>> and
>>>> ONLY the US. LEXUS (Luxury EXport US)
>>>> Ezveedub
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> From: "Taka Mizutani" <t44tqtro at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "DGraber460 at aol.com" <DGraber460 at aol.com>
>>>>> CC: quattro at audifans.com, s-car-list at www.audifans.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Q7 ramblings
>>>>> Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 08:47:48 -0500
>>>>>
>>>>> Except that Lexus does better than MBZ, BMW and Audi and they  
>>>>> don't
>>>>> use a
>>>>> stupid
>>>>> MMI/iDrive/COMAND system. They are probably the best at gauging  
>>>>> the US
>>>>> market
>>>>> anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think all of this crap that the Germans are foisting on us is
>>> eventually
>>>>> going to bite them
>>>>> in the butt. Give me the RS5 Clubsport edition- no MMI, manual
>>>>> heat/air,
>>>>> manual transmission,
>>>>> manual seats, no sunroof, no back seat, ceramic brakes,  
>>>>> aluminum/CF
>>>>> body.
>>>>> :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW, I saw a recent R-M Auction that brought much more reasonable
>>>>> prices-
>>> I
>>>>> think the
>>>>> Barrett-Jackson bubble is going to burst (which is a good  
>>>>> thing, as a
>>> $35k
>>>>> '69 Z-28 is a
>>>>> much better proposition than a $110k car at B-J).
>>>>>
>>>>> Taka
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3/2/07, DGraber460 at aol.com <DGraber460 at aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One thing we must remember is that these engineering designs and
>>>>> decisions
>>>>>> are NOT based on the desires of loyalists such as this group.  
>>>>>> They
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> driven
>>>>>> by  marketing research data. If the "Premium brand" marques are
>>>>>> moving
>>>>> in
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> given  direction and sales do not drop (and the press praises  
>>>>>> it),
>>>>>> it
>>>>> will
>>>>>> flourish. It is cutting edge. It is market positioning and image.
>>>>>> In  building and
>>>>>> selling high end cars there are 3 critically important  factors:
>>>>>> Image.
>>>>>> Image.
>>>>>> Image.
>>>>>> Long term you have to deliver the goods. But _today_ you must
>>>>>> impress
>>>>> and
>>>>>> dazzle with "new" and bragging rights type "stuff", even if  
>>>>>> that is
>>> more
>>>>>> complicated and detrimentally complex.
>>>>>> The "Bangle Butt", I-Drive, and Barrett-Jackson prove that the
>>>>>> buying  public
>>>>>> can be an illogical, image driven, herd of sheep.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am sort of old school, and love a dash full of switches and  
>>>>>> dials
>>> and
>>>>>> gauges.
>>>>>> Let me control everything and give me a bank of toggle switches
>>>>>> and
>>> I'm
>>>>> a
>>>>>> happy camper.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dennis
>>>>>> No longer the  target market!
>>>>>> Denver
>>>>>>
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