quattro Digest, Vol 62, Issue 35

[Rick Houck]

Scott,

The coupe you saw (silver/graphics) was probably mine. Awsome event, even if 
I was one of the slowest. The old 10vt was almost 20 PSI short on boost for 
some reason, but I made do and had a great time. Once in a lifetime 
opportunity! I saw a white type 44 on the last day. Was that you?

Rick
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>   1. ACNA Daytona event update (suffolkd at aol.com)
>   2. Re: [Marketplace] Parts: Talk About Audacity! (Ben Swann)
>   3. Vacuum leaks in CIS-E - hose source?? (Kunz, Bob)
>   4. Mass Air Flow sensor ? (Fay Kelley)
>   5. RE: Mass Air Flow sensor ? (Ed Kellock)
>   6. RE: Mass Air Flow sensor ? (Fay Kelley)
>   7. Re: 84 4k oil pressure light (Huw Powell)
>   8. RE: Mass Air Flow sensor ? (Ed Kellock)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 10:48:52 -0500
> From: suffolkd at aol.com
> Subject: ACNA Daytona event update
> To: quattro at audifans.com
> Message-ID: <8CB2CE3C36FF3CE-8CC-741 at webmail-da05.sysops.aol.com>
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> Those who couldn't make the National "event" & meeting missed some nice 
> 40-73 degree weather for the three days at Daytona.
>
>
>
> I'm glad to say that my personal experience running the 200 20V for a few 
> laps was a success.
>
> While the suspension wasn't up to snuff (spring rate & body roll) for the 
> infield course - think road course turn 3 - the car ran the oval well 
> soaking up the ripples along the way around the ~31 degree banking.
>
>
>
> This was the same configuration as the 24 hr course.
>
>
>
> All this was possible from fellow Audifan: Mr. Besso.
>
> Mark drove the 200 and all my tools & parts (which I didn't need) the ~ 
> 1100 miles down to the track and is currently enroute returning to New 
> England stopping along the way for some exploration.? Mark and several 
> others offered within hours of my adventure post and Mark and I traded 
> cars for the weekend.?
>
>
>
> I am extremely grateful for the ability to have the car there for the 
> event.
>
>
>
> For the old schoolers here, I saw a 90 coupe, 4000 20V conversion amongst 
> the R8's (5-6 of them), numerous Corvette and Porsches and a few Mustangs 
> & Ferraris.? Several specialty track cars were also present which Mark and 
> I will have plenty of photo links to in the later part of the week.
>
>
>
> Those following the ACNA elections & the proxy vote, I and others will 
> have a better update on the Audiworld forums.
>
>
>
> The National Annual meeting was held in the infield media center building 
> and attended by ~20-25 people.
>
> Approximately 8 - 10 called in by phone.? As of Thursday there wasn't 
> notice for the meeting on the ACNA website: audiclubna.org
>
> Initially there were only 4 BoD members so a quorum wasn't met until three 
> others phoned in by conference call.
>
>
>
> The BoD initially considered the meeting informational, even after a 
> quorum was met, however representatives from both the Chicagoland and 
> North Atlantic (NAAClub.org) clubs provided Bylaws references to establish 
> that the meeting was able to conduct business, and first on the new 
> business - agenda - was the elections.
>
>
> The cliff notes:
>
>
>
> We said to rescind and redo the election.
>
> We presented the proxies and the ACNA Bylaws that the Annual meeting was 
> able to conduct business.
>
>
>
> Dean (Treadway) and John (Horner) opened a motion to consider the issue of 
> the election.  I thank them for taking this step.
>
>
>
> They (the ACNA BoD) said they had voted on this twice before and didn't 
> think a third vote was needed.
>
>
>
> The ACNA BoD realized that the process wasn't done well and needs to be
> (in so many words from my memory) standardized and improved upon.
>
>
>
> But this will start at the next election process.
>
>
>
> Dean felt the blank ballots were overcome by those receiving them
> calling into National to get replacement ballots.
> A (second) member present
> confirmed he too, got a blank ballot.
>
>
>
> Mary (Ayers) pledged to address this and to start the healing process 
> moving
> forward, which became the wrap up theme. Meeting adjourned around 7:PM
> E.S.T.
>
>
>
> Unoffical notes:
>
>
>
> The 2007 BoD winner had 420 votes, making the ballot returns more than 420 
> as some didn't vote for him.
>
>
>
> I overheard the figure for this years INCLUDED in the QQ; ballot
> returns, to be in the 2-300 region. Not sure if this is official.
>
>
>
> A far more precise and better update coming soon.
>
> Thanks for the bandwidth.
>
> -Scott by BOSTON
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 10:28:10 -0500
> From: "Ben Swann" <benswann at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [Marketplace] Parts: Talk About Audacity!
> To: <quattro at audifans.com>
> Message-ID: <004401c95ec9$bd015b70$0201a8c0 at swansong>
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>
> Or simply do something like this http://www.gtquattro.com/GarageSale.html 
> my garage
> sale list is seriously out of date and needs to be re-inventoried, but you 
> get the idea.
> I'm sure he can find somewhere to post a simple HTML or document page - 
> most providers
> have that now.  Then put the link in a Marketplace ad that lists the link 
> and perhaps
> the latest car or a few of the "highlights".  Ad could say something like 
> "Many good
> used parts including mondo engine from Ultra rare Auber Quat.  Much more 
> posted at
> [url/link]"
>
> If I had to list all the parts separately, it would kill the server and 
> overflow peoples
> inboxes - even with the digest!
>
> Ben
>
> [Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 19:41:59 -0500 (EST)
> From: tom at freeskier.com
> Subject: Subject: Re: [Marketplace] Parts: Talk About Audacity!
> To: quattro at audifans.com
> Cc: steve at satelliteglass.com
> Message-ID: <1229301719.328724199 at 192.168.1.70>
> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=UTF-8
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> Unfortunately, I have to agree. Glen needs to spend a few bucks, and 
> create a website to
> list the tons and tons and tons and tons of stuff he's selling. Individual 
> posts for
> every little item (and there are a lot) are WEAK. IMO, this seems 
> applicable in this
> case, given the volume of items that he is offering.
>
> Do one post, build a website, promote your business there and spend the 
> time updating
> that site. I suspect if he was using "old media" like the classifieds in 
> the local
> newspaper (and paying $50 a pop per ad), he'd come up with one ad for all 
> his stuff.
> Chris at Force 5 is a fine example of what I'm talking about. He does it 
> right. Could
> you imagine if Chris listed every damn part he has for sale in the 
> marketplace????
>
> The problem is, Glen falls someplace between Chris and you or me. But from 
> the looks of
> it, it's time to step it up, Glen! And if you don't want to do a site, one 
> post with a
> list of everything you have (bullet point-like, ya know), rather than 
> multiple posts of
> everything, might be a nice way to go.
>
> However, I think you should look at this as an opportunity. Your VERY OWN 
> WEBSITE! Wow!
> Who knows how many millions you might make? (ok, $50 would be nice) ;-)
>
> Tom '95 S6 Avant (Website online, but no Audi content on it, hence 
> completely useless to
> everyone here)
>
> ]
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:22:34 +0000
> From: "Kunz, Bob" <bob.kunz at hp.com>
> Subject: Vacuum leaks in CIS-E - hose source??
> To: "quattro at audifans.com" <quattro at audifans.com>
> Message-ID:
> <540E0B723B94954CA9F98ECACA9316AE2530E07C19 at GVW1098EXB.americas.hpqcorp.net>
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> The car is a 1986 5kS Avant with the KZ non-turbo engine. It exhibits 
> symptoms of vacuum leaks and there are actually visible cracks in the hose 
> that connect the top of the fuel distributor sensor plate to the throttle 
> body. I haven't been able to dig in yet to get this piece off and see just 
> how many cracks are there but it sure feels brittle and I'd just as soon 
> find a replacement.
>
> Anyone got leads on who might still make these? Maybe even in silicone? 
> They are essentially "not available" from Audi since they stopped Type 44 
> parts manufacture.
>
> --bob
> '86 5Ks Avant
> '02 TTQR
> '07 Q7 4.2
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 10:37:01 -0700
> From: Fay Kelley <iceisit at earthlink.net>
> Subject: Mass Air Flow sensor ?
> To: quattro at audifans.com
> Message-ID: <p06240805c56c4573bf61@[192.168.1.129]>
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> Hi   --  When I had my car about a month the check engine light went
> on and I took my car to Phoenix and they ran codes and said it
> pointed to MAF.   The fella I bought the car from is an Audi tech and
> told me these don't go bad on that year and model ....
>
> My car is now running poorly, missing and lacking power.   Of course
> the check engine light is on, and now sometimes it blinks.
>
> Can the MAF be cleaned and put back in, or must I order a new one and
> replace it?
>
> This is a rough month for us and it would be helpful if I could clean
> it and get a new one in a month or two.
>
> If I can clean it where is it located?    Thanks ~ Fay
> -- 
> Audi Grrl
> Red '97 A6 Avant AWD
>
> ~
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 12:09:16 -0700
> From: "Ed Kellock" <ekellock at gmail.com>
> Subject: RE: Mass Air Flow sensor ?
> To: "'Fay Kelley'" <iceisit at earthlink.net>, <quattro at audifans.com>
> Message-ID: <0E2D83E7A8B84F7C8100E01EABBA322C at Boonieslap>
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>
> Did the tech reset the check engine light back then or has it been on ever
> since?
>
> If he reset the CE light, then this fault could be something else 
> entirely.
> You really need to get the fault codes to see what's wrong.  It may not be
> the MAF.
>
> Ed
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: quattro-bounces at audifans.com
>> [mailto:quattro-bounces at audifans.com] On Behalf Of Fay Kelley
>> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 10:37 AM
>> To: quattro at audifans.com
>> Subject: Mass Air Flow sensor ?
>>
>>
>> Hi   --  When I had my car about a month the check engine light went
>> on and I took my car to Phoenix and they ran codes and said it
>> pointed to MAF.   The fella I bought the car from is an Audi tech and
>> told me these don't go bad on that year and model ....
>>
>> My car is now running poorly, missing and lacking power.   Of course
>> the check engine light is on, and now sometimes it blinks.
>>
>> Can the MAF be cleaned and put back in, or must I order a new one and
>> replace it?
>>
>> This is a rough month for us and it would be helpful if I could clean
>> it and get a new one in a month or two.
>>
>> If I can clean it where is it located?    Thanks ~ Fay
>> -- 
>> Audi Grrl
>> Red '97 A6 Avant AWD
>>
>> ~
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 12:10:57 -0700
> From: Fay Kelley <iceisit at earthlink.net>
> Subject: RE: Mass Air Flow sensor ?
> To: quattro at audifans.com
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>>Did the tech reset the check engine light back then or has it been on ever
>>since?
>
> he reset it ...
>
>>If he reset the CE light, then this fault could be something else 
>>entirely.
>>You really need to get the fault codes to see what's wrong.  It may not be
>>the MAF.
>>
>>Ed
>
> Can't afford to drive there this month ...
>
> Can I safely clean the MAF sensor ?
>
> F.
> -- 
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 14:16:37 -0500
> From: Huw Powell <audi at humanspeakers.com>
> Subject: Re: 84 4k oil pressure light
> To: "Bares, Vittorio" <Vittorio.Bares at nuance.com>
> Cc: quattro at audifans.com, Tony Hoffman <auditony at gmail.com>
> Message-ID: <4946AD15.8080505 at humanspeakers.com>
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>
>> One new issue is that the water temp gauge is flaky - shows just a
>> little temperature, climbs to just above cold, then drops to nothing
>> again - When it does this - the car will stumble a little on 1st gear
>> start up. I suspect the water temp sender on the cooling hose flange
>> attached to the block.
>
> As I recall, this car sat for a long time unused.
>
> I would recommend (and meant to days ago) that you try to disconnect,
> clean, and reconnect as many electricals as you can, especially under
> the hood.  Light corrosion can wreak havoc on the low current fittings,
> and on the '84 most of them are not very well sealed.
>
> It's also a lot cheaper than replacing the sender, when all it might
> actually take to fix a problem is taking the connector apart and putting
> it back together (that alone will often clean them enough to work again).
>
> If you can get some, use silicon dielectric grease on each connector's
> contacts before plugging them back in.
>
> -- 
> Huw Powell
>
> http://www.humanspeakers.com/audi
>
> http://www.humanthoughts.org/
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 12:17:48 -0700
> From: "Ed Kellock" <ekellock at gmail.com>
> Subject: RE: Mass Air Flow sensor ?
> To: "'Fay Kelley'" <iceisit at earthlink.net>, <quattro at audifans.com>
> Message-ID: <8A129DC4164948B08A02BFEB6EDED100 at Boonieslap>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> There is some spray stuff that you can get at an auto parts store that is
> called MAF cleaner or something like that.  Don't use anything else as the
> MAF is very sensitive and other sprays may do harm to it.
>
> I don't know where the MAF is on your car or how difficult it might be to
> get to it.  Did he show you where it is?  If not, hopefully someone else 
> on
> the list will be able to direct you better or send a pic.
>
> Just for the hell of it, check you oil dipstick and make sure it's 
> inserted
> all the way into its tube, check the oil filler cap and make sure its
> tightened down properly, and check the fuel filler cap and make sure its
> also seated and tightened properly.  Maybe it's something easy like those
> things...
>
> If the dipstick and oil filler cap are loose that would cause a vacuum 
> leak.
> The fuel filler cap would probably only cause a CE light and not make the
> car run any differently.
>
> Ed
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: quattro-bounces at audifans.com
>> [mailto:quattro-bounces at audifans.com] On Behalf Of Fay Kelley
>> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 12:11 PM
>> To: quattro at audifans.com
>> Subject: RE: Mass Air Flow sensor ?
>>
>>
>> >Did the tech reset the check engine light back then or has
>> it been on
>> >ever since?
>>
>> he reset it ...
>>
>> >If he reset the CE light, then this fault could be something else
>> >entirely. You really need to get the fault codes to see
>> what's wrong.
>> >It may not be the MAF.
>> >
>> >Ed
>>
>> Can't afford to drive there this month ...
>>
>> Can I safely clean the MAF sensor ?
>>
>> F.
>> -- 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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