Re Ignition Problems plase help

Wed Dec 17 18:31:51 PST 2008

I remember having a similar problem (the rev limiter effect). on my 20v it 
was caused by the idle switch jamming closed fooling the system into 
thinking the engine was supposed to be idling. the fix was eventually to 
replace the switch although the immediate work around was to disconnect the 
switch (unplug it) and set the throttle butterfly to open a bit so that the 
engine would idle rather than stall.

Rick Hayllar
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>   1. Timing Belt on a 3.0 quattro Digest, Vol 62, Issue 40
>      (suffolkd at aol.com)
>   2. Re: ignition problems (i think) somebody please help!!!!
>      (Huw Powell)
>   3. Re: turbo water pump (L DC)
>   4. Re: ignition problems (i think) somebody please help!!!!
>      (cobram at juno.com)
>   5. 4KQ Hubs: Front vs. Rears and bearing sizes (L DC)
>   6. Re: turbo water pump (cobram at juno.com)
>   7. RE: Frozen Doors Shut (Max Hoepli)
>   8. Re: Frozen Doors Shut (Mark R)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 13:51:45 -0500
> From: suffolkd at aol.com
> Subject: Timing Belt on a 3.0 quattro Digest, Vol 62, Issue 40
> To: quattro at audifans.com
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> We did a NAAClub.org Timing Belt-a-thon with a 3.0.? Special (and 
> different) tools were needed.
>
> If the lister is in the New England area, I can pass along the shop info.
>
> -Scott by BOSTON
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> From: Max Baker <max at warped.org>
> To: quattro list <quattro at audifans.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 10:55:19 AM
> Subject: Timing Belt on a 3.0
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> Hi List,
>
> My sister has an all-road w/ a 3.0 in it.   Does anyone know what the
> timing belt change interval is on those?  She says it has 86k miles and
> has never been changed.
> Anything else that should be done on those "while i'm in there" ?
>
> Thanks,
> -m
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 14:14:27 -0500
> From: Huw Powell <audi at humanspeakers.com>
> Subject: Re: ignition problems (i think) somebody please help!!!!
> To: cobram at juno.com
> Cc: quattro at audifans.com
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> There's no flywheel sender on the 88 90Q.
>
> cobram at juno.com wrote:
>> Symptoms sound like it could be a bad reference sender at the flywheel.
>> Check the Bentley for testing procedure, don't have a copy handy at then
>> moment, but IIRC there should be 1000 olhm's between the first and second
>> terminal at the plug.
>>
>> BCNU,
>> http://www.geocities.com/cobramsri/
>> "God's a kid with an ant farm. He's not planning anything."
>>
>> donald grady <audilvr at hotmail.com> writes:
>>> i'm driveng an '88 90 quattro 5 cyl.this problem has been escalating
>>> for a while and now the car is not driveable. it started out that
>>> the engie will cut out at 3000 rpm kind of like a rev limiter.i
>>> found if the fuel meter on the front of the cis fuel meter is
>>> unplugged, the car will run fine...but the onboard computer goes to
>>> all zero's when 3000 is reached. i've tried swapping just about
>>> everything i can think of but i can't finnd the problem and now tthe
>>> car won't idle or run properly. it surges stalls and backfires(blew
>>> the side out of the muffler when it backfired).i'm at a loss and
>>> running in circles.if anyone thinks they can help, please do.
>>> _________________________________________________________________
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 11:23:49 -0800 (PST)
> From: L DC <ldc007usa at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: turbo water pump
> To: quattro at audifans.com, Nick Lawrence <nick at beol.net>
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> I was at the junk yard yesterday and noticed a early-mid '90s, VW Passat 
> with a VR6 engine that had an afterrun? water pump made by Bosch and much 
> like the one in the 5KTQ. I bet it can be substituted as the nipples 
> appear to be the same size.
>
> I did a search on AutohausAZ.com for both vehicles and both pumps look 
> very similar, except for the price of course :)
>
> -Regards
>
>
> LDC
>
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> --- On Tue, 12/16/08, Nick Lawrence <nick at beol.net> wrote:
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>> From: Nick Lawrence <nick at beol.net>
>> Subject: turbo water pump
>> To: quattro at audifans.com
>> Date: Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 2:25 PM
>> Has anyone actually used a 2.7t afterrun water pump on a
>> type 44. It looks like better construction.  TIA
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 14:25:24 -0500
> From: cobram at juno.com
> Subject: Re: ignition problems (i think) somebody please help!!!!
> To: audi at humanspeakers.com
> Cc: quattro at audifans.com
> Message-ID: <20081217.142524.4868.3.Cobram at juno.com>
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> What's it use to reference #1, just the dizzy window?  What's it use for
> an RPM signal, the coil?  I thought the I5's were all basically the same,
> I stand corrected.  I've had the '88 90Q for years now, never needed more
> than brakes and radiators.  KISS at work.
>
> BCNU,
> http://www.geocities.com/cobramsri/
> "God's a kid with an ant farm. He's not planning anything."
>
> Huw Powell <audi at humanspeakers.com> writes:
>> There's no flywheel sender on the 88 90Q.
>>
>> cobram at juno.com wrote:
>> > Symptoms sound like it could be a bad reference sender at the
>> flywheel.
>> > Check the Bentley for testing procedure, don't have a copy handy
>> at then
>> > moment, but IIRC there should be 1000 olhm's between the first and
>> second
>> > terminal at the plug.
>> >
>> > BCNU,
>> > http://www.geocities.com/cobramsri/
>> > "God's a kid with an ant farm. He's not planning anything."
>> >
>> > donald grady <audilvr at hotmail.com> writes:
>> >> i'm driveng an '88 90 quattro 5 cyl.this problem has been
>> escalating
>> >> for a while and now the car is not driveable. it started out that
>>
>> >> the engie will cut out at 3000 rpm kind of like a rev limiter.i
>> >> found if the fuel meter on the front of the cis fuel meter is
>> >> unplugged, the car will run fine...but the onboard computer goes
>> to
>> >> all zero's when 3000 is reached. i've tried swapping just about
>> >> everything i can think of but i can't finnd the problem and now
>> tthe
>> >> car won't idle or run properly. it surges stalls and
>> backfires(blew
>> >> the side out of the muffler when it backfired).i'm at a loss and
>>
>> >> running in circles.if anyone thinks they can help, please do.
>> >>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 11:31:52 -0800 (PST)
> From: L DC <ldc007usa at yahoo.com>
> Subject: 4KQ Hubs: Front vs. Rears and bearing sizes
> To: quattro at audifans.com
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> Hi all,
>
> Are the rear hubs and wheel bearings on the Audi 4KQ the same as the 
> front's?
>
> A search on AutohausAZ.com for the 4KQ's front wheel bearings revealed a
> 68mm size with part #s 321498625D and 823407625B.
>
> As for the rear wheel bearing, it showed a part # 33411130617.
>
> Thank you in advance
>
> -Regards,
>
> Louis DC
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 14:42:18 -0500
> From: cobram at juno.com
> Subject: Re: turbo water pump
> To: ldc007usa at yahoo.com
> Cc: quattro at audifans.com
> Message-ID: <20081217.144218.4868.4.Cobram at juno.com>
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> I've used the afterrun/climate control pump off Mercyless Benz's in the
> TQA.  There used to be plenty in the bone yards, just make sure and cut
> the connector along with the pump, it's different.  ArizAutohaus has the
> Mercedes pump for around $50 new, don't know if it'll work in newer
> applications, here's a pic:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/MBpump
>
> BCNU,
> http://www.geocities.com/cobramsri/
> "God's a kid with an ant farm. He's not planning anything."
>
>
>
> L DC <ldc007usa at yahoo.com> writes:
>> I was at the junk yard yesterday and noticed a early-mid '90s, VW
>> Passat with a VR6 engine that had an afterrun? water pump made by
>> Bosch and much like the one in the 5KTQ. I bet it can be substituted
>> as the nipples appear to be the same size.
>>
>> I did a search on AutohausAZ.com for both vehicles and both pumps
>> look very similar, except for the price of course :)
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 14:50:16 -0500
> From: "Max Hoepli" <mhoepli at vif.com>
> Subject: RE: Frozen Doors Shut
> To: <audi_owners_usa at yahoogroups.com>, <w-t_audifans at yahoogroups.com>
> Cc: quattro at audifans.com
> Message-ID: <5DFB0E954B8E42AA908508887C27173B at maxe90ce4b205a>
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> Glycerine has helped the doors to open at freezing temps.
>
>
>
> Max
>
>
>
>  _____
>
> From: audi_owners_usa at yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:audi_owners_usa at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Max Hoepli
> Sent: December 14, 2008 23:59
> To: w-t_audifans at yahoogroups.com; cobram at juno.com
> Cc: audi_owners_usa at yahoogroups.com; quattro at audifans.com
> Subject: [Audi Owers USA] RE: Frozen Doors Shut
>
>
>
> I have rubbed glycerine into all the door rubber seals on door and car 
> door
> frame side. Glycerine bottle from Shoppers Drug Mart looks like it was
> bought in the 1980's. Have to wait until it starts to freeze to find out
> effect.
>
> Max
>
> _____
>
> From: w-t_audifans@ <mailto:w-t_audifans%40yahoogroups.com> 
> yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:w-t_audifans@ <mailto:w-t_audifans%40yahoogroups.com>
> yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Max Hoepli
> Sent: December 10, 2008 13:20
> To: cobram at juno. <mailto:cobram%40juno.com> com
> Cc: audi_owners_ <mailto:audi_owners_usa%40yahoogroups.com>
> usa at yahoogroups.com; quattro at audifans. <mailto:quattro%40audifans.com> 
> com;
> w-t_audifans@ <mailto:w-t_audifans%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [WT-Audifans] RE: Frozen Doors Shut
>
> I lubed the doors locks by spraying oil spray into doors locks.
>
> I'll silicone treat the rubber when opportunity comes.
> Appreciate help.
>
> Max
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cobram at juno. <mailto:cobram%40juno.com> com [mailto:cobram at juno.
> <mailto:cobram%40juno.com> com]
> Sent: December 10, 2008 12:41
> To: mhoepli at vif. <mailto:mhoepli%40vif.com> com
> Cc: audi_owners_ <mailto:audi_owners_usa%40yahoogroups.com>
> usa at yahoogroups. <mailto:usa%40yahoogroups.com> com; quattro at audifans.
> <mailto:quattro%40audifans.com> com;
> w-t_audifans@ <mailto:w-t_audifans%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: Frozen Doors Shut
>
> Common on type 44's. To avoid it in the future, get some Silicone spray
> (I like the stuff they sell at electrical supply houses, it's very pure),
> spray down the rubber gaskets a couple times with the stuff. It gets
> absorbed, so you won't stain anything, renews the gaskets as an added
> bonus.
>
> Hit up the sunroof, trunk and window gaskets while you're at it, they get
> stuck too.
>
> You might want to check the condition of your evaporator door flap
> spring, when this spring breaks, it ups the interior humidity
> considerably, adding to the condition.
>
> Good time to lube the internals of the door handle and it's mechanisms
> too.
>
> BCNU,
> http://www.geocitie <http://www.geocitie
> <http://www.geocities.com/cobramsri/> s.com/cobramsri/> s.com/cobramsri/
> "God's a kid with an ant farm. He's not planning anything."
>
> On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 12:34:14 -0500 "Max Hoepli" <mhoepli at vif.
> <mailto:mhoepli%40vif.com> com> writes:
>> Hi all,
>>
>>
>>
>> When it is freezing outside the Type 44 Turbo Quattro's doors can't
>> open, it
>> seems to be clinging at the front edge, seems to be opening by rear
>> edge of
>> door.
>>
>> Comments?
>>
>> I leave it. I don't want to pull too hard, just some light force to
>> open..
>>
>> I remove all the snow on windows so there is possibility of sun's
>> rays
>> warming car inside.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 14:59:23 -0500
> From: "Mark R" <speedracer.mark at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Frozen Doors Shut
> To: "Max Hoepli" <mhoepli at vif.com>
> Cc: audi_owners_usa at yahoogroups.com, quattro at audifans.com,
> w-t_audifans at yahoogroups.com
> Message-ID:
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> Cheap and easy!  I've often wondered if it's the magic ingredient in Zymol
> Seal.
>
> Mark Rosenkrantz
>
> On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 2:50 PM, Max Hoepli <mhoepli at vif.com> wrote:
>
>> Glycerine has helped the doors to open at freezing temps.
>>
>>
>>
>> Max
>>
>>
>>
>
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