Adding Refrigerant without a Low Pressure fitting

Kneale Brownson knealeski at sbcglobal.net
Sat Jul 5 18:38:52 PDT 2008


Link is to a pix of the Schrader valve on the front of the compressor manifold on my 200q20v sedan.  It's the low pressure access:  http://www.pbase.com/kneale_brownson/image/99723804

Fred Munro <munrof at sympatico.ca> wrote:          I believe the low pressure switch port contains a Schrader valve, so you just unscrew the switch and screw on the adapter. You don't have to empty the system.
   
  I've attached the post from Tom Green, the chap who found the adapter.
   
  Fred
   
    I have broken the code on a/c charging through the low pressure 
  switch port. This has been a sore
  point with lots of listers for a long time. So I decided that I 
  must "carry a message to Garcia".
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Message_to_Garcia
  I didn't have the problems Major Rowan encountered in carrying the 
  President's message to General
  Garcia. It was as simple as reading Paul Waterloo's A8 posts on the 
  correct way and poor man's way to
  recharge the a/c system. Please read both the posts, as they contain 
  essential information for recharging
  the a/c system both by the correct factory method and the shortcut. 
  I am not here to encourage you to
  recharge your system by either method. Unless you are confident in 
  your ability and knowledge, take it
  to a professional. Otherwise, use at your own risk.
  http://forums.audiworld.com/a8/msgs/99732.phtml
  http://forums.audiworld.com/a8/msgs/135287.phtml
  There are follow on posts that show where Paul Waterloo sourced his 
  fitting.
  I got mine at Midway Auto Supply. It is a FJC Air Conditioning 
  Products R134a Tank Adapter --Part# 6016.
  I don't think a group buy can save over $2 unless there are a lot 
  more interested than I know of.
  http://www.midwayautosupply.com/p-7636-fjc-air-conditioning-products- 
  r134a-tank-adapter-6016.aspx
  And, yes it works. It is a quick disconnect fitting, so if you are 
  using old screw-on fittings for your refrigerant
  can or manifold, you will have to get adapters or a new hose set. I 
  encourage all to use a gage set, but otherwise
  you are on your own.
  Tom

    -----Original Message-----
From: mboucher70 at hotmail.com [mailto:mboucher70 at hotmail.com]
Sent: July 5, 2008 7:27 PM
To: Kneale Brownson; Fred Munro; quattro at audifans.com
Subject: Adding Refrigerant without a Low Pressure fitting


  Kneale, I've got a good sense that mine doesn't have a low pressure fitting.  Just to be certain, can you help me locate where it would be on yours?  The "front of the return manifold on the compressor"...if I recall the compressor is below the radiator, out of sight.  Would I be able to see the black capped low pressure fitting on your 200q20vs from the same vantage point that I could see the white capped high pressure fitting?  Or would I need to be under the car to see it?
   
  Fred, in order to add the low pressure adapter to a car that doesn't have one, I'm assuming that you'd need to first empty the system of existing coolant?
   
  I'm wondering if its possible to add refrigerant via the high pressure fitting, with the car turned off.  I figured that the aerosol can is probably pressurized enough to overcome the 60psi and get at least some refrigerant in, but it surely won't overcome the 150psi present when the a/c is on.  I appreciate that I'll get a lot smaller fraction of the can into the car via the high pressure valve at 60psi than via the low pressure at 30-50.  The only impact of this is that I'll require more cans.  Anyone see a flaw with this?
   
  ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Kneale Brownson 
  To: Fred Munro ; mboucher70 at hotmail.com ; quattro at audifans.com 
  Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 5:38 PM
  Subject: RE: How to Determine if your Audi is Actually Short of Refrigerant

  

  On my 200q20vs, there's a low pressure fitting on the front of the return manifold on the compressor.  Black cap.  That's where I've put in refrigerant.
  
Fred Munro <munrof at sympatico.ca> wrote:
  You've connected to the high side adapter, as indicated by the lower
pressure when the compressor cycles off.



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