quattro Digest, Vol 61, Issue 10

Fri Nov 7 15:20:20 PST 2008

Thanks all
I have ordered a couple so they are on their way
TRick
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>   1. Re: Exhaust Hangers for quattro 90 (DK)
>   2. Re: Exhaust Hangers for quattro 90 (Brendan)
>   3. Re: Exhaust Hangers for quattro 90 (syljay)
>   4. Re: RS6 comedy (Dave)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 23:54:21 -0700
> From: DK <proleonk at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Exhaust Hangers for quattro 90
> To: whitehill <rhayllar at bigpond.net.au>, quattro at audifans.com
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> How does this look?
> http://www.034motorsport.com/product_info.php?products_id=453
>
> A bit pricey, but they should last more then the normal ones. Or use
> normal rubber ones and have a coat hanger backup...
>
> Dave
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> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 03:55:11 -0500
> From: Brendan <mailinglist at endosquid.com>
> Subject: Re: Exhaust Hangers for quattro 90
> To: quattro at audifans.com
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> Go to any FLAPS, like Atlantic Import Auto Supply in Barrington, NH...
> They got them for me for 2 bucks a pop. Shipped. Done.
>
>
> On Friday 07 November 2008, DK wrote:
>> How does this look?
>> http://www.034motorsport.com/product_info.php?products_id=453
>>
>> A bit pricey, but they should last more then the normal ones. Or use
>> normal rubber ones and have a coat hanger backup...
>>
>> Dave
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> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 10:20:18 -0500
> From: syljay <syljay at optonline.net>
> Subject: Re: Exhaust Hangers for quattro 90
> To: quattro at audifans.com
> Cc: rhayllar at bigpond.net.au
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>> From: "whitehill" <rhayllar at bigpond.net.au>
>> Subject: Exhaust Hangers for quattro 90
>> To: <quattro at audifans.com>
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>>
>> I have read somewhere that chain reinforced exhaust hangers are available
>> somewhere. Does any know where?
>> I would like to solve the problem of frequently braking hangers that can
>> then cause the exhaust to drop on the rotating halfshaft with nasty
>> results!!!.
>
> ***** VW's use the chain re-inforced exhaust hangers as a replacement
> for their always failing standard rubber hangers.
> I bought several from my local Parts guy - I think they were around
> $7.00 each. I see that you are from the land of Oz - my local guy wont
> be of much help to you.
>
> Putting on the re-inforced hangers is not so easy as they dont bend or
>  stretch much. I had to unbolt the cat from the downpipe and unbolt
> the cat support in order to allow the exhaust pipe enough movement to
> work the hangers onto their mounting points. PITA.
>
> Standard replacement hangers rarely last a year. It pays to go under
> the car twice a year and give them a once over to make sure they
> havent broken.
>
> The hangers break so often that I'm tempted to make my own. The
> material for the hangers would be same as what they make outside door
> mats our of - old tires? Take a strip of the material and make a donut
> out of it . . and rivet the piece to intself using stainless steel
> rivets.
>
> Maybe something like a worn out bicycle tire would work. the material
> is thinner so you can wrap it around itself several times and  just
> use one rivet to hold it together.
>
> Syljay in NJ
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 08:28:55 +1300
> From: Dave <dave.eaton at clear.net.nz>
> Subject: Re: RS6 comedy
> To: <quattro at audifans.com>
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> no unusually brett, you can't see the wood for the trees...
>
> $4k to replace the starter, sorry but someone is yanking your chain (or is
> it your usual hyperbole?).  the engine does come out as turbos are in the
> way.  you could lose the turbos i guess, but then the car wouldn't be 
> quite
> the same would it - i never liked the c5 s6.  my dealer tells me it is an 
> 8
> hour job to remove the motor, and that a starter replacement would be less
> than $1.5k.  i have yet to hear of a failed rs6 starter motor.  i'll stick
> with the car and the turbos thanks.
>
> the weak points of the car are well known - primarily drc and the tranny.
> having said that, the rs6 is the best "s" or "rs" audi i've owned (5 at 
> last
> count) - and is still running factory fresh and sweet 2 years later, 4 
> years
> from purchase.  but as with any hi-po german car, it's got to have a
> warranty. if you can afford the car, afford the warranty.
>
> btw the battery is only on the trunk floor of usa cars. hans and klaus put
> the battery under the trunk floor for everyone but the usa. and gave
> everyone else proper rs6 seats.  and avants. wonder why?
>
> dave
> '03 rs6
> '04 allroad tdi
>
>
> On 7/11/08 7:36 PM, "quattro-request at audifans.com" > Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008
> 21:24:00 -0500
>> From: Brett Dikeman <brett at cloud9.net>
>> Subject: RS6 comedy
>> To: Quattro List <quattro at audifans.com>
>>
>> Economy got you down?  Just got a big bill from your mechanic?
>> Wondering if your car is worth it?
>>
>> Well, look on the bright side: you could own a C5 RS6.
>>
>> For the RS6-deprived, a starter going bust is a relatively minor
>> expense.  For the worthy?  It's $4k, because the engine has to come
>> out.  Then there are the torque converter failures (so much for that
>> BS about the autobox handling torque better than a manual), the timing
>> belt adjustments every 10,000 miles, and the fancy DRC suspension
>> system failures.
>>
>> If you had an RS6, this wallet-draining would be beneficial.  See, if
>> you had money, then you could afford to buy stuff, which you could try
>> to in your RS6's trunk.  Which you can't, because there's a battery in
>> the way.  Vorsprung Der Technic apparently consists of a bunch of boys
>> from Quattro GMBH bumming around the R&D shop on a weekend with some
>> beers, shoehorning two turbochargers into the engine compartment,
>> buttoning everything back up, and then realizing it wont start because
>> they forgot to put the battery back in.  And then stuffing it in a
>> carpeted box in the trunk so they can get home.
>>
>> Other comedy: rumors of Audi denying warranty claims on RS4 suspension
>> failures (they're considered "wear and tear" and only covered to 12k/
>> 12months), so clearly there wasn't much work put into DRC between the
>> two cars.  If you're thinking about purchasing the fancy suspension in
>> a new Audi, you might want to quadruple-rethink it.
>>
>> Brett
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 12:46:43 -0700
> From: "Ed Kellock" <ekellock at gmail.com>
> Subject: RE: RS6 comedy
> To: "'Dave'" <dave.eaton at clear.net.nz>, <quattro at audifans.com>
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> I went to a tech session when the RS6 first came out.  It was an Audi Club
> event at the primary dealer in Denver.  With the car in the air, I don't
> recall being able to see the starter from underneath.  They told us that 
> the
> book stated it was a 22-hour job involving dropping the engine from the 
> car.
> I imagine in time actual people performing the actual job have saved a 
> good
> bit on that, hence Dave's 8-hour/$1500 position, which definitely sounds
> more reasonable, IF the dealer will charge _actual_ time for the job.  It
> may very well be that a dealer service department somewhere charged full
> book rate for a deep-pocketed customer.  Not sure whey the North American
> version would require different battery placement.  Probably some sort of
> federal regulation vs. crash testing blah, blah, blah.  Seems that if it 
> fit
> elsewhere for the rest of the world, it might be able to be retrofitted
> elsewhere in North American, unless there's some "extra" equipment 
> required
> that takes up the space.
>
> Ed
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: quattro-bounces at audifans.com
>> [mailto:quattro-bounces at audifans.com] On Behalf Of Dave
>> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 12:29 PM
>> To: quattro at audifans.com
>> Subject: Re: RS6 comedy
>>
>>
>> no unusually brett, you can't see the wood for the trees...
>>
>> $4k to replace the starter, sorry but someone is yanking your
>> chain (or is it your usual hyperbole?).  the engine does come
>> out as turbos are in the way.  you could lose the turbos i
>> guess, but then the car wouldn't be quite the same would it -
>> i never liked the c5 s6.  my dealer tells me it is an 8 hour
>> job to remove the motor, and that a starter replacement would
>> be less than $1.5k.  i have yet to hear of a failed rs6
>> starter motor.  i'll stick with the car and the turbos thanks.
>>
>> the weak points of the car are well known - primarily drc and
>> the tranny. having said that, the rs6 is the best "s" or "rs"
>> audi i've owned (5 at last
>> count) - and is still running factory fresh and sweet 2 years
>> later, 4 years from purchase.  but as with any hi-po german
>> car, it's got to have a warranty. if you can afford the car,
>> afford the warranty.
>>
>> btw the battery is only on the trunk floor of usa cars. hans
>> and klaus put the battery under the trunk floor for everyone
>> but the usa. and gave everyone else proper rs6 seats.  and
>> avants. wonder why?
>>
>> dave
>> '03 rs6
>> '04 allroad tdi
>>
>>
>> On 7/11/08 7:36 PM, "quattro-request at audifans.com" > Date:
>> Thu, 6 Nov 2008 21:24:00 -0500
>> > From: Brett Dikeman <brett at cloud9.net>
>> > Subject: RS6 comedy
>> > To: Quattro List <quattro at audifans.com>
>> >
>> > Economy got you down?  Just got a big bill from your mechanic?
>> > Wondering if your car is worth it?
>> >
>> > Well, look on the bright side: you could own a C5 RS6.
>> >
>> > For the RS6-deprived, a starter going bust is a relatively minor
>> > expense.  For the worthy?  It's $4k, because the engine has to come
>> > out.  Then there are the torque converter failures (so much
>> for that
>> > BS about the autobox handling torque better than a manual),
>> the timing
>> > belt adjustments every 10,000 miles, and the fancy DRC suspension
>> > system failures.
>> >
>> > If you had an RS6, this wallet-draining would be
>> beneficial.  See, if
>> > you had money, then you could afford to buy stuff, which
>> you could try
>> > to in your RS6's trunk.  Which you can't, because there's a
>> battery in
>> > the way.  Vorsprung Der Technic apparently consists of a
>> bunch of boys
>> > from Quattro GMBH bumming around the R&D shop on a weekend
>> with some
>> > beers, shoehorning two turbochargers into the engine compartment,
>> > buttoning everything back up, and then realizing it wont
>> start because
>> > they forgot to put the battery back in.  And then stuffing it in a
>> > carpeted box in the trunk so they can get home.
>> >
>> > Other comedy: rumors of Audi denying warranty claims on RS4
>> suspension
>> > failures (they're considered "wear and tear" and only
>> covered to 12k/
>> > 12months), so clearly there wasn't much work put into DRC
>> between the
>> > two cars.  If you're thinking about purchasing the fancy
>> suspension in
>> > a new Audi, you might want to quadruple-rethink it.
>> >
>> > Brett
>>
>>
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