[V8] beautiful

Ingo Rautenberg ingo.rautenberg at gmail.com
Fri Nov 28 05:54:38 PST 2008


I believe want Kent meant to say was differential oil getting past  
seal and mixing with auto trans fluid.  This was a common issue with  
earlier type 44(5k/5kt) 3-speed trannies.  IIRC there was a seal that  
would harden over time and allow the fluids to mix. Problem was, you  
could check the fluid level and it was ok (but it's composition was  
not).

On Nov 28, 2008, at 8:40 AM, 32VQUATTRO wrote:

> sounds more like the clutch pack got smoked. There was an issue on  
> some
> zf4hp24 (that's our trany) where a small leak in the valve body  
> allowed
> minimal pressure to be applied to the forward gears while still in
> park/neutral. this can sometimes be felt after shutting down your  
> car, you
> will feel the car lurch back. under normal circumstances, this is  
> not a big
> deal. however, if you like to rev your motor to listen to that v8  
> growl,or
> in this situation, throttle gets stuck wide open, you will almost  
> certainly
> cook the trany.
>
> FWI....no way for engine oil to get into the transmission, unless  
> you add it
> via the fill tube :-o
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kent McLean" <kentmclean at comcast.net>
> To: <quattro at audifans.com>; <V8 at audifans.com>
> Cc: "Wendy Teal" <wanderson16 at cogeco.ca>
> Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 8:20 AM
> Subject: Re: [V8] beautiful
>
>
>> Wendy Teal wrote:
>>> I am having my doubts about it being the whole transmission too,  
>>> let me
>>> tell
>>> you exactly how it happened and with you guys being sooo smart it  
>>> might
>>> ring
>>> a bell.....I occasionally have used the 'sport' mode function  
>>> with no
>>> troubles....(mind you I have had the 3 months)...So after it was  
>>> switched
>>> into sport mode this last time. The throttle blew wide open.....Then
>>> there
>>> was no pressure in the gas pedal, it was all floppy, same as the  
>>> switch
>>> for
>>> the sport mode, it now spins with zero resistance...
>>
>> I'll give you some more thoughts...
>>
>> The V8 automatic transmission is problematic.  There is a seal inside
>> that, when it starts to fail, (I may not get this exactly right, but
>> I think the general idea is correct) lets engine oil seep into the
>> transmission. This causes a mechanical failure in the transmission
>> that means it must be rebuilt (difficult) or replaced (expensive).
>>
>> Some owners periodically (yearly, every 30K miles) flush the fluid
>> from the transmission -- out with the bad, in with the good. But this
>> must be done *before* problems arise.  It may not hurt to have  
>> someone
>> flush your transmission fluid. No guarantees it will fix the problem,
>> but for $100, you may get lucky.
>>
>> However, there are also mechanical bits like the shift linkage itself
>> that may cause the problem.  An Audi specialist, not necessarily a
>> dealer, may have a better clue than your local all-makes-and-models
>> repair shop. And given there's a sport-economy-normal switch, there
>> are also electrical doodads (switches, sensors, wiring) that can
>> fail.
>>
>> Your best bet would be to find an Audi specialist and let them  
>> diagnose
>> the problem.  If it does need a new transmission, you'll have to  
>> decide
>> if you want to spend the money to fix it (and an old Audi will  
>> probably
>> have more expensive bits to repair (steering rack, brakes, heater  
>> cores,
>> no-longer-available sensors, ignition switch to name a few)) or to  
>> cut
>> your loses and sell it.
>>
>> Another option, if the transmission is bad, is to convert it to a  
>> manual
>> transmission (5-speed).  It won't be any cheaper, it may be more
>> expensive,
>> but you won't have a transmission problem until the clutch needs  
>> to be
>> replaced in 100K+ miles.
>>
>> Single mom needing a reliable car for work?  You may be better off
>> with a Honda Accord or Toyota Camry.
>>
>> -- 
>> Kent McLean
>> '91 200 TQA #3, grey
>> '99 A4 Avant, V6 Tiptronic
>> '91 200 TQA #2 blue, up in smoke 2
>> '91 200 TQA #1 black, recycled
>> '94 100 S Avant, "Moody", sold
>> '89 200 TQ, "Bad Puppy", up in smoke
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