Alignment issue? CV Joint?

[Ed Kellock]

When you shake the tire, are you absolutely sure it's not the wheel on the
hub that's moving??

I had a tire place forget to torque the lug bolts and it did about the same
thing you're talking about.

As far as any tie rod damage or wheel bearing damage or anything more
substantial like that.  If you didn't feel it before, you won't feel it now,
not this significantly different.  Now, if they jack up your tie rod end
trying to free a stuck adjuster, that's a whole nother can of worms.

Ed

> -----Original Message-----
> From: quattro-bounces at audifans.com 
> [mailto:quattro-bounces at audifans.com] On Behalf Of Dave Yentema
> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 4:41 PM
> To: Rob Beatty
> Cc: quattro at audifans.com
> Subject: Re: Alignment issue? CV Joint?
> 
> 
> When you shake the tire, are you absolutely certain that it's 
> the tie rod 
> end, and not the wheel bearing? Try rocking the wheel up and 
> down as opposed 
> to side to side and see if there is still play. What you are 
> describing 
> sounds like a wheel bearing to me....
> 
> 1) I think  the guy just screwed up inner/outer
> 2) see above
> 3) exactly
> 4) Yea, some heat on the nut can help a lot too
> 5) nah I don't think so, cvs generally make a grinding noise 
> when they're 
> going bad
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rob Beatty" <beattyr2003 at cox.net>
> To: <>
> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 5:48 PM
> Subject: Alignment issue? CV Joint?
> 
> 
> > Ok I am stumped.  Here is the problem.  Had new snow tires 
> put on my 
> > 95
> > A6Q
> > sedan and while they were doing that, they were suppose to 
> do a 4 wheel
> > alignment.  After new tires were put on, I discovered that 
> at highway 
> > speeds
> > (55mph or higher) that when I turn the wheel to the left 
> for a sweeping
> > turn, I get a tremendous shudder/vibration.  It literally 
> feels like the
> > wheel is going to shoot off the car.  If I straighten the wheel the 
> > shudder
> > goes away.  Completely.  For sweeping turns to the right, no
> > shudder/vibration at all.  It also feels like it's the 
> right hand front
> > wheel that's shuddering, but obviously I can't be 
> completely certain of
> > that.
> >
> >
> >
> > Further complicating matters when I brought it back to the 
> tire place 
> > (actually a different one, it's a chain store and this one was near 
> > work), they said I had worn out inner tie rod ends.  They 
> also asked 
> > if I had gotten any paperwork when I had 1st picked the car up.  I 
> > had, but I had never looked at it and the guy didn't say 
> anything to 
> > me when they handed me the keys.  I was in a hurry and didn't get 
> > around to looking at it.  So I look at it and it says tie rod 
> > adjustments frozen, and that the outer tie rod ends are 
> worn out and 
> > should be replaced.
> >
> >
> >
> > So I have a couple of questions.
> >
> >
> >
> > 1. The inner "end" isn't really a joint, its just a rubber 
> bushing so 
> > what the hell was the 1st guy talking about?  Did he just confuse 
> > inner with outer?
> > 2. I just jacked the car up and rocked the right front 
> wheel back and
> > forth and there is a decent amount of play in that tie rod 
> end.  Could 
> > that
> > be my culprit?
> > 3. If it is the tie rod end, why isn't it a problem at 
> lower speeds and
> > why only when turning to the left?
> > 4. Is it worth trying to unfreeze the adjustments with a 
> couple of days
> > worth of penetrating oil or should I just bite the bullet 
> and buy whole 
> > new
> > rods?
> > 5. If its not the tie rod end, could it be my CV joint on that side
> > being really bad?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
> >
> > Rob
> >
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