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Wed Apr 15 09:17:53 PDT 2009

fit the bill for the budget I have ATM. I really would've liked to have
tried the Nok R's (I wasn't displeased at all with my RSi's, well, except
for the price) since my real pref would've been studless, and I wasn't quite
certain, for my needs, that going for the Nordfrost 5's extra performance
would've made financial sense (Gregs prices were excellent, BTW, if you're
thinking of going that route). I just don't need a few extra 10/ths of
seconds of A - B time to need that advantage. Of course, we'll see if I'm
sorry later, the coatings of snow that we've already had were on the last
winter depths of my WR-G2's, and they were still fine for that.

On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 11:32 PM, Ben Kwan <1.8tquattro at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thank you for the replies.
>
> I ran the Nordman 1's (purchased from Greg Galinksy) on my old 92 100CSq.
> Loved the tire but I'm getting rid of the car.
>
> If the Generals are anywhere close to those then I'll be fine this winter.
>
> I'm still waiting for some replies on the Michelin X-ice before pulling the
> trigger.
>
> Thanks again.
>
> Ben
>
>  On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 10:47 PM, Greg Smith <lifeisabirdie at yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>> The General uses the old Gislaved Nordfrost 3 tread mold.  As a dealer for
>> Gislaveds, I have asked all the people that  I can what the rubber chemisrty
>> is.  I know that in the Continental/General group there is a history of
>> tread molds being shared.  The old Nordfrost 2 got made into a Semperit ice
>> Grip. The Semperit did not seem to work as well as the Gislaved nordfrost  2
>> did; which kind of leaves the rubber chemisrty. It would be my guess that
>> there is not a sharing of the chemisrty formulas between different brands
>> within the same company. To this point I have not treid the General version
>> in a timed event or when really pushing them.  I have driven a few customer
>> cars with them on and they responded ok.  I didn't want to push a customer
>> car like i do my own. My insights from selling the Nordfrost 3 over 4 years
>> ago were that they had pretty decent lateral grip, fairly quiet on dry
>> roads, good tread life and acceptable snow function.  I
>>  really push my tires, over 30 years of ice trials have exposed me to lots
>> of different conditions.
>> It seems kind of odd that teh Continenal/General group would willlingly
>> sell the Generals at teh price point that they are; if they had the same
>> rubber chemisrty that the old Gislaveds did. They would canabilze their
>> current Gislaved sales with that tactic.For 25 years I was a Nokian Hak
>> believer.  Since they moved to the hak 4 and RSi and the current Hak 5 abd
>> Hak R models; I can't justify selling  those tires at the price point they
>> are at and the winter function that they seemed to have lost.I really like
>> the current Gislaved nordfrost 5 tires.Greg GalinskyG & G Service
>>
>> --- On Sun, 10/18/09, Danton J.A. Cardoso <djacardoso at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> From: Danton J.A. Cardoso <djacardoso at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: Snow tire help
>> To: "LL - NY" <larrycleung at gmail.com>
>> Cc: "Quattro" <quattro at audifans.com>
>> Date: Sunday, October 18, 2009, 9:08 PM
>>
>> I use Yokohama Ice Guard's on my A4 Avant.... great tire, had them on
>> for one season in Western NY, and we had a typical winter.  Now, I am
>> in Northeastern, MO, and they have held up well, although the snow
>> here isn't as much as WNY.  They are a bit noisy, on the dry, but what
>> do you expect from a snow tire.  They are on 15" steelies, far cry
>> from my 17" Borbets.
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 8:44 PM, LL - NY <larrycleung at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I was all set to go for the Hakka R's until I priced them out. Couldn't
>> > swing them.
>> >
>> > I've been through the rounds on the General Altimax Artics, that they
>> > *may*be Nordfrost 3 clones (they certainly
>> > *look* the part, but I couldn't get confirmation) or not, and then I
>> read
>> > the reviews on both TireRack (not one single complaint in the 11 pages
>> of
>> > reviews I read) and Consumers Report and concluded that they are
>> probably a
>> > safe bet. There were was also a meager $25 rebate on them at TireRack,
>> > although that expired right after I purchased them.And at half the price
>> of
>> > the Hakka R's, and at better than $60 less than the Xi's.  I did get
>> > convinced possibly against my better judgement (based upon Kneale's
>> > argument) by my local friend to go for the studs, from what I've seen in
>> the
>> > reviews, that'll make them unstoppable. Not sure I needed that,
>> particularly
>> > with the amount of highway travel I do. Nonetheless, I live in serious
>> snow
>> > country (like Kneale, and Bob Myers and all of the Coloradans). Mounting
>> > them up on the Saabaru tomorrow, so no on the road experience yet. If
>> they
>> > work on the Saabaru, they'll be awesome on the the UrS, which overall
>> has
>> > proven a much more stable winter beast.
>> >
>> > On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 7:22 PM, Ben Kwan <1.8tquattro at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi everyone,
>> >>
>> >> I'm looking for a new set of snows and I've narrowed it down to two
>> based
>> >> on
>> >> reading the archives.
>> >>
>> >> General Altimax Arctic (Nordforst 3 Clone?)
>> >>  or
>> >> Michelin X-Ice Xi2
>> >>
>> >> The General's are going to be the cheaper of the 2 but Michelin is
>> offering
>> >> a $70 rebate on the Xi2's.  The difference in price is going to be
>> about
>> >> $60
>> >> after I get the rebate money back.
>> >>
>> >> How's the treadwear on the Xi2's for those of you that purchased last
>> >> season?  I've read that the tread depth isn't as deep as other snows
>> but
>> >> they are still an excellent performing tire.
>> >>
>> >> Which one would you choose if you were in my shoes?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Ben
>> >>
>> >> Current:
>> >> 01 A4 1.8tq
>> >> 99 Honda Accord V6
>> >>
>> >> Past:
>> >> 90 100
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