Audi in London

[Bares, Vittorio]

Lol! I'm glad I never use cruise and my cruise doesn't work ...that
makes sense though...

Vittorio -
 

-----Original Message-----
From: quattro-bounces at audifans.com [mailto:quattro-bounces at audifans.com]
On Behalf Of Ed Kellock
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 2:00 PM
To: quattro at audifans.com
Subject: RE: Audi in London

Yes it is.  I removed the blue wire from the connector block but
discovered
the following spring that this also defeats the cruise control.  I'm
glad I
didn't snip it.  

Ed

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bares, Vittorio [mailto:Vittorio.Bares at nuance.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 11:51 AM
> To: Ed Kellock; Mark J. Besso; Mark R
> Cc: quattro at audifans.com
> Subject: RE: Audi in London
> 
> 
> And the speed sensor on the lock is easily defeatable (snip :))
> 
> Vittorio -
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ed Kellock [mailto:ekellock at gmail.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 1:24 PM
> To: 'Mark J. Besso'; 'Mark R'
> Cc: Bares, Vittorio; quattro at audifans.com
> Subject: RE: Audi in London
> 
> Part of what you say is incorrect.  Torsen is never 
> controlled or "cut out" by electronics.  The manual locking 
> of the rear diff on certain era of vehicles is defeated at 
> about 20mph, but Torsen is always active.
> 
> Torsen isn't everyone's ideal either.  There's been great 
> debate about it's ultimate worth.  I believe most everyone is 
> in agreement up to about 9/10's and then it's function is 
> considered not beneficial by some.  
> 
> The lock-up cut out relative to speed is only applicable to 
> rear diffs that can be locked manually by an electronic switch.
> 
> Early cars, up to 88 had fully manual lock control.  Torsen 
> was introduced in 89 with the electronic rear diff lock switch.
> 
> Ed
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: quattro-bounces at audifans.com
> > [mailto:quattro-bounces at audifans.com] On Behalf Of Mark J. Besso
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 11:17 AM
> > To: Mark R
> > Cc: Bares, Vittorio; quattro at audifans.com
> > Subject: Re: Audi in London
> > 
> > 
> > I beg to differ.  The "real" quattro's have individually lockable
> > differentials for the center and rear.  They may seem 
> primitive, but 
> > they sure whoop Torsen's.
> > 
> > Not to mention, the Torsen-equipped cars have electronics
> > that cut out 
> > the lock-up feature over a certain speed.  Just when they're 
> > starting to 
> > get fun, the lock-up is disabled.  Boo!
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Mark R wrote:
> > >> Especially if you have something like 19 inch summer
> > tires.....! But
> > >> the TT doesn't have 'real' quattro anyways, right? ;-)
> > >>
> > >> Dan D
> > >> '04 A4 1.8Tq MT-6
> > >> Central NJ USA
> > >>     
> > >
> > >
> > > Dan hit the nail on the head!  I just got back from
> > instructing at yet
> > > another winter driving school (NAAC) and good tires are of
> > course the
> > > number one thing to have for the conditions.  But "real"
> > Quattro (with
> > > a torsen center diff) is head and shoulders above anything else,
> > > ESPECIALLY Haldex based systems.
> > >
> > > Subaru and BMW get is mostly right, but there's something
> > about real
> > > Quattro that is absoluitely tops.  And the control/fun of
> > the Torsen
> > > systems go from understeer to subtle oversteer at just the right
> > > moment (when the fronts hook up)....  gotta love it!
> > >
> > > Mark Rosenkrantz (who would take Haldex over FWD or RWD,
> > but any other
> > > AWD system over Haldex).
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