[V8] 4.2A6 Pros and Cons
TooManyAudis at aol.com
TooManyAudis at aol.com
Tue Jan 6 14:39:08 PST 2009
Henry A Harper III wrote:
> repair bill of
> almost $30k and five months in the one shop in all of Michigan certified to
> work on aluminum body cars.
>
> > Before committing to either an A8 or S8, check the insurance rates.
You guys are really starting to bum me out.
--
Kent McLean
'99 A4 Avant
'91 200 20V Avant #3
'94 100 Avant, sold
'91 200 20V Avant #2, up in smoke #2
'91 200 20V Avant #1, recycled
'89 200 10V sedan, up in smoke
Kent,
you have gone through more Audis than nearly anyone else I have heard of.
With the possible exception of Fay in Arizona. The first thing I would do is
equip your new car with some kind of fire suppression system. Forget a
sprinkler, you need the kind that puts out Industrial kitchen grease fires, or
better yet, the kind they use to put out fires in old tire piles....
It seems to me that the A8 is now a 'do the math' proposition. It's not a
$70k car. It's a $6k to $15k car for something that's in the 8 to 12 year old
range... probably not a whole lot more than your A4 with the bum engine.
In my opinion, the early A8s are beautiful cars. if they drive as well as
they look, you'll probably find a way to get one.
Cost of ownership for this car falls into two categories, mechanical repairs
and "insurable" repairs. You should be able to get some idea as to the
reliability of the engine, drive train and various components, as well as some
idea as to maintenance and common repair costs. It these will most likely be
more than an A4, but one would assume that some higher quality parts went into
these cars initially.
For insurable repairs, nearly any bump, scrape or bruise that requires body
work will result in the insurance company totaling the car. If you buy the
car at, say, $10 grand, well, that's all the insurance company will be liable
for. So, in theory, your insurance costs should be based on a $10k car, not
its $70 original purchase price. If the repair estimates are $30k to fix the
car after an accident, it's going to be totaled, not fixed. I don't know if
this kind of logic can be used with your insurance company. I doubt it, but
who knows...
So, you have a few choices...
You can buy the car and pay outrageous amounts monthly for comp and
collision insurance, knowing that your rates are based on repair costs that the
insurance company will never pay out because they will total the car for the
slightest ding.
You can buy the car and purchase only liability insurance on it. That way
if you get into an accident you can repair it yourself with body panels from a
junkyard car or simply part the car out. Your financial exposure will be
the purchase price less the amount you can recoup from the individual parts
that are sold to other A8 owners. This will most likely amount to several
thousand dollars less in insurance payments per year. After 36 months or so,
you'll probably saved enough by not buying comp and collision to pay for another
A8. Then again, 36 months appears to be 3 or 4 times the mean time between
catastrophic Audi failures for you...
Buy a working car and a parts car.
And, most importantly, if you do get into an accident, don't be the one that
caused it. Let the other insurance company pay for anything that happens to
the car.
Bottom line is, if you like the A8 (and you obviously do), you can work the
numbers to make its purchase appear to be a sound financial investment.
-- Tom Werner
Charleston SC
1988 80q for sale (see marketplace ad)
1995 A6q 5-speed -- open for generous offers
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