euro light install WOW!

Ed Kellock ekellock at gmail.com
Tue Jun 9 11:23:46 PDT 2009


What is the function of the inner segment of the euro lights?  Extra high
beam?  Fog light?  Driving light?  Now that I'm exploring this, I'm much
more convinced that I should wire it separately to its own switch.

On the euro lights, at least on these, the city light is in the main beam
area.  It's a small low wattage bulb in the side of the reflector above or
below the main bulb.  The inner segment has a 100w bulb in it.  I know on
the stock DOT lights the inner segment is kind of a parking light or
whatever.  I put a 20w amber bulb in there and could see things illuminated
in amber even with my headlights on.

My euros already had bulbs in them and I didn't question what they were and
why.  It has a 100w bulb in the inner segment that can't be for the same
purpose as on the DOT lights.

My city lights are both broken and it would take some careful and creative
glueing to be able to run them.  I would like some sort of parking light in
front though.  I have thought about converting the turn signals to a dual
filament bulb.  I'm not as concerned about not having the corner lights.  I
guess I could convert the side turn signals to dual filament as well.

Stock 9004s are 45w/65w.  With H4s, it steps up to 55/60, 55/100, 70/80,
80/100, 90/100, 90/130, 100/145.

I think I will stick with the 55/100s and split out the inner segment to its
own switch, if only to be able to have more control over how much light I'm
throwing.

Thanks,
Ed

-----Original Message-----
From: Schaible, David [mailto:David.Schaible at jrspharma.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 11:00 AM
To: Ed Kellock
Cc: 200q20v at audifans.com
Subject: RE: euro light install WOW!


I forget what the stock wattage is supposed to be, for some reason 55/60
rings a bell.  There are super low watt bulbs toward the middle of the car.
Those are city driving lites which turn on with your parking lites so if you
are driving around under street lamps those lites are visible to mark your
vehicle but do not shine a beam......i think they are like 10 watt or
something. 



David Schaible
JRS Pharma LP
2981 Rt. 22
Patterson, NY 12563
845.878.8343




-----Original Message-----
From: 200q20v-bounces at audifans.com [mailto:200q20v-bounces at audifans.com] On
Behalf Of Ed Kellock
Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 12:50 PM
To: quattro at audifans.com; 200q20v at audifans.com
Subject: RE: euro light install WOW!

I've already thought it's way overkill.  I was thinking about relaying the
low beams to get everything I can out of  the 55 watt low beams.  I also
thought about using a separate switch for the dedicated high beam position.
I have already wondered about the health of wiring and relays running 100w
highs.  I don't think I need much more convincing to get a less powerful
2-filament bulb for that position.

Is that inner segment actually a high beam?  I'm just now sitting here
thinking that it could very well be a fog light or something.  Am I being a
bonehead?

I might relish the thought of finally being able to retaliate to the drivers
of Ford trucks with lights that absolutely blind me at night.  The thing is,
for the most part, they probably didn't do anything but buy a truck off the
lot.  Sure some are lifted or tweaked or not aimed well after accident
damage, but it's the lighting designers at Ford, among others, who are the
real culprits.  Anyway, having good lights of my own will really help
dealing with the bright lights of others and I'm good with that.

I certainly don't want to blind anyone else.  I'm extremely vigilant about
dimming my lights, though it really made no difference in the 200, but
nobody's perfect.  I think I'll dial down the 100w to 80 or so.  Is the
stock high beam 65 watts?

Thanks David.

Ed



-----Original Message-----
From: Schaible, David [mailto:David.Schaible at jrspharma.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 10:35 AM
To: Brandon Rogers; PeterBergin at aol.com; ekellock at gmail.com;
quattro at audifans.com; 200q20v at audifans.com
Subject: RE: euro light install WOW!




He is also running the 100w bulbs which I removed from mine b/c they are
dangerous.  Even with the nice euro reflector and good aim you totally blind
people unless you are on a totally straight road or are perfect at dimming
your hi's.  You also need to really keep up on the connections, especially
in the salt belt or you will be melting your stuff and trashing relays on a
regular basis.  On my first avant I ran the regular bulbs in the euros on
the stock wiring, no relay for 250K miles no issues.  With the second avant
that came with the hi watt bulbs and a relay harness I had many issues until
I pulled the hi watt bulbs.

 people running those bulbs should have someone drive their car and be on
the receiving end coming around a turn just so you know, you wind up being
blind for at least 5 seconds after they hit you....depending on your age,
etc. drinking also affects your glare recovery time.  

The euros weren't dot approved even though they are great, so for the
imports they put in the minimum spec dot approved lites.....on a $50k
car....kinda like a screw you USA






David Schaible
JRS Pharma LP
2981 Rt. 22
Patterson, NY 12563
845.878.8343




-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of Brandon Rogers
Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 12:15 PM
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200q20v at audifans.com; v8 at audifans.com
Subject: RE: euro light install WOW!

I've heard from others that the Euros for the 200 20V offer greater
(greatest?) improvement over stock compared to the UrS cars, ur-quattros,
etc.

Brandon 

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Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 4:36 AM
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Subject: Re: euro light install WOW!


You give me motivation to install the set I bought new for my 200 Avant 7  
years ago with the Blau custom harness.  They have been sitting under my  
bench all that time.  Maybe after I replace the AC condenser, tie rods and a

bunch of other small things on my list.
 
Pete, 91 Avant
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