Phoenix, AZ V8 mechanic needed.

Tue Mar 31 13:28:44 PDT 2009

It has been a long time since I posted to the list. I am in Phoenix, and my 1990 V8 is having trouble starting. Not sure if it is the ignition switch that is worn out, or the starter that is going bad. Either way, i need it fixed ASAP. I hope someone knows a reasonably priced shop that is reliable. Thank you for your help. Michael Riebs.

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   1. Re: Audi value (Kent McLean)
   2. Re: How 'interference' are the 12v engines? (Mark R)
   3. Re: Truth-in-24 (Tony Hoffman)
   4. Valves and guides (Paul)
   5. RE: Truth-in-24 (Tihol Tiholov)
   6. Re: Audi value (Huw Powell)
   7. Re: URQ block (Huw Powell)
   8. RE: Audi value (John Lagnese)
   9. RE: How 'interference' are the 12v engines? (John Lagnese)
  10. RE: Truth-in-24 (Andrew Dickinson)

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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 18:04:39 -0400
From: Kent McLean <kentmclean at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Audi value
To: quattro at audifans.com
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Roger Abshire wrote:
> The insurance company has offered 25% of the value of the car. 

*Whose* value of the car? Yours? The drunk's? Kelly Blue Book?
Is that 25% and you get to keep the car?

I'd start with KBB or NADA value of an average 10V car at retail.
Then show them the receipts for all the work done to make your
car above average. Show the "comps", sale prices off of eBay
or ads on Craigslist or the Audifans Marketplace. Keep rejecting
their offers until you are happy.  It might not hurt to hint
at "courts" and "lawyers'. If they are truly at 25% of KBB, a
good lawyer and a sympathetic judge should ream them a new one.

-- 
Kent McLean
1999 A4 Avant, V6 Tiptronic
1991 200 TQA #3, with mods
soon-to-be-mine 1990 V8 w/5-speed and other mods
gone: '91 200 TQA x2, '94 100 S Avant, '89 200 TQ

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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 18:04:38 -0400
From: Mark R <speedracer.mark at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: How 'interference' are the 12v engines?
To: Tony Hoffman <auditony at gmail.com>
Cc: quattro at audifans.com, TooManyAudis at aol.com
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I think mine is also Hazet, but you can try OTC.  I bet Schley makes one.

It's used on all of the newer VAG cars that I've had to remove a head on
(not many), so a worthwhile purchase.

Mark Rosenkrantz

On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 1:14 PM, Tony Hoffman <auditony at gmail.com> wrote:

> Tom,
>
> I understand completely, I've done some pretty interesting things
> myself over the years. Thankfully, they were all on my own cars!
>
> I'd say you have a 50/50 chance of having bent valves. The easiest way
> to check is to pull the valve covers and see if there is any
> significant clearance between the cams and the lifters.
>
> If they look tight, put it all back together and you should be good to
> go. That's the same method I've used in shops for years, and only once
> did it fail me, out of probably 50 or so times. And, that once was
> slight, the car ended up with a slightly rough idle, nothing else. The
> valve was just barely bent, 110 compression in that cylinder, 150 in
> the other three.
>
> If you did bend them, 12V engines seem to be pretty cheap out there,
> as well as their parts.
>
> As for the head bolt tool, if it's the same as the 30V's, it's sort of
> like a torx, but the teeth are square, as opposed to tapered like a
> torx. I have one of them, it's a Hazet tool. You cam probably get one
> off ebay if you need.
>
> Tony
>
> >
> > Any thoughts?  Similar unsavory experiences?  Spare AFC heads  (cheap)
> for
> > sale?
> >
> > Also, does anybody know what tool I need to loosen the head bolts?   They
> > appear to have a 6-point torx-like pattern on the top of the bolt (male
>  end) so
> > that the correct socket would be a female torx-like apparatus.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Tom
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:07:36 -0500
From: Tony Hoffman <auditony at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Truth-in-24
To: Hayes Myers <hayesmyers at gmail.com>
Cc: urq list <urq at audifans.com>, quattro at audifans.com
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I'm all for it!! I'd love to see today's technology put into action,
perhaps with simple limitations such as engine size or whatnot, and
allow technology to determine from there. Woa, group B cars would
suddenly look slow!! I'd love to see who would step up and volunteer
to drive them.

Tony

On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Hayes Myers <hayesmyers at gmail.com> wrote:
> Audi should campaign in uWRC. ?I am going to start the Ultimate World Rally
> Championship. Fully Open. No Rules. And No Soobs. :)
>

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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 12:04:16 +1300
From: Paul <pristle at ihug.co.nz>
Subject: Valves and guides
To: quattro at audifans.com
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Hey,

We're looking for 'exhaust' valves and valve guides for a 10v head with 
mechanical lifters. The car is a 1985 200tq, normally powered by a KG 
motor (it's in bits). The valves are reportedly 'NLA".

Paul

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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 16:10:26 -0700
From: Tihol Tiholov <t.tiholov at gmail.com>
Subject: RE: Truth-in-24
To: quattro at audifans.com
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> Audi should campaign in uWRC.  I am going to start the Ultimate World
Rally
Championship. Fully Open. No Rules. And No Soobs. :)

This is like American rally (Canadian incl.) - anything goes in Open class
... 'cept tons of Soob's.

BTW, many similarities btwn endurance and rally.  The WRC top cars are close
to prototypes.  The 4 cyl. econoboxes just happen to be the fastest cars to
build on, not the only ones allowed to run.
AWD not allowed in endurance races, too.

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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 18:32:15 -0500
From: Huw Powell <audi at humanspeakers.com>
Subject: Re: Audi value
To: Peter Golledge <petergolledge at gmail.com>
Cc: quattro at audifans.com
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I was going to mention that in a way.  Probably one of the best tools in 
terms of getting the "right amount" for your car would be if you had an 
agreed value policy of your own on it.

Under such circumstances I would assume your ins. co. would go after the 
other co. for the proper amount.

Did you have collision insurance on it?

Peter Golledge wrote:
> Sad fact of owning "out of the ordinary" cars... you will never get anywhere
> near what they are "worth to you" from regular insurance, BTDT.  I have a
> 930 with Hagerty with agreed value for that very reason.
> 
> I have owned a couple of 200 Quattros and would not call them rare or high
> performance unfortunately. :-)
> 
> Cheers
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: quattro-bounces at audifans.com [mailto:quattro-bounces at audifans.com] On
> Behalf Of Roger Abshire
> Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 2:37 PM
> To: quattro at audifans.com
> Subject: Audi value
> 
> I am requesting help with establishing rarity and value of my Pearl White
> 1990 Audi 200 Turbo Quattro sedan that was destroyed in a collision with a
> drunk driver. The insurance company has offered 25% of the value of the car.
> No court appearance, just review documents of the history and photos of this
> car and submit a letter to my attorney. I am a collector with more than 45
> years experience with rare high performance automobiles.
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 18:32:52 -0500
From: Huw Powell <audi at humanspeakers.com>
Subject: Re: URQ block
To: srosen at starxray.com
Cc: quattro at audifans.com
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Our engine blocks have numbers on them?

If so, under which part of the rust?

srosen at starxray.com wrote:
> 
> 
> Is the original block to my 82 worth keeping just to have matching #s
> available one day. Or should I trash it. I'm cleaning house.
> 
> Steve
> 
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 20:29:24 -0400
From: "John Lagnese" <jlagnese at massed.net>
Subject: RE: Audi value
To: "'Roger Abshire'" <parkwaycorvette at swva.net>,
	<quattro at audifans.com>
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Do you have collision on your car? If so, your insurance will (care)
help you. They pay and then go after the other insurance company.
Otherwise they don't' do anything. BTDT with my 91 Audi TQ 20V and my 87
VW Scirocco 16V as well.
John
-----Original Message-----
From: quattro-bounces at audifans.com [mailto:quattro-bounces at audifans.com]
On Behalf Of Roger Abshire
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 4:37 PM
To: quattro at audifans.com
Subject: Audi value

I am requesting help with establishing rarity and value of my Pearl
White 1990 Audi 200 Turbo Quattro sedan that was destroyed in a
collision with a drunk driver. The insurance company has offered 25% of
the value of the car. No court appearance, just review documents of the
history and photos of this car and submit a letter to my attorney. I am
a collector with more than 45 years experience with rare high
performance automobiles.
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 20:29:24 -0400
From: "John Lagnese" <jlagnese at massed.net>
Subject: RE: How 'interference' are the 12v engines?
To: <TooManyAudis at aol.com>, <quattro at audifans.com>
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Luckily I have no experience with this. Good luck!

-----Original Message-----
From: quattro-bounces at audifans.com [mailto:quattro-bounces at audifans.com]
On Behalf Of TooManyAudis at aol.com
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 12:45 PM
To: quattro at audifans.com
Subject: How 'interference' are the 12v engines?

After nearly 15 years of doing my own repairs, including Timing belts on
5  
or 6 Audis, I made a stupid, rookie mistake.  I replaced the valve seals
on  my 
95 A6q 5-speed and left the socket wrench I used to manually turn the
engine  
attached to the crank bolt.

Well, when you hit the key with the socket wrench still attached, bad
things 
happen.  Like, the crank bolt backs out and the timing belt skips a  few
(10 
or so) teeth.  That, and your heart sinks to the bottom of your  shoes, 
followed by a string of invectives aimed squarely at oneself.

I'm sure that worse things have happened.  And, on the 5 cylinder
engines, 
it's no big deal.  I've even seen this method used to break the  crank
bolt 
free on an 80q.  

As with most disasters, time and money are the cure.  Still, I'd like
to 
escape with as little time and even less money thrown needlessly at the
car.

So, I got a new t-belt from Napa (a Contitech belt, nonetheless) and a  
compression tester from O'Reilly Auto Parts (part of their loaner tool
program).  

When I get back home tonight, I'll put the timing belt on and do a  
compression test on all 6 cylinders.  If that reads ok, it's most likely
no  harm, no 
foul.

Otherwise, It's probably time to loosen up the headbolts and dig into
the  
engine.

Any thoughts?  Similar unsavory experiences?  Spare AFC heads  (cheap)
for 
sale?

Also, does anybody know what tool I need to loosen the head bolts?
They 
appear to have a 6-point torx-like pattern on the top of the bolt (male
end) so 
that the correct socket would be a female torx-like apparatus.

Thanks,

Tom

1995 A6q  5-speed (up for interesting offers) 220k
1988 80q (sold, and still going  strong!) 250k+
1991 200q20v towed away in the middle of the night by a VW  diesel
pickup 
275k+
1985 4kq a freakin' beast of a car! 275k+ and presumably  still going
1987 4k died in a hit and run 250k+
1983 4k Very first Audi 35  to 38 mpg.  Victim of crank key failure
300k+
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 21:17:45 -0400
From: "Andrew Dickinson" <amdickinson at rogers.com>
Subject: RE: Truth-in-24
To: "'Tony Hoffman'" <auditony at gmail.com>,	"'Hayes Myers'"
	<hayesmyers at gmail.com>
Cc: 'urq list' <urq at audifans.com>, quattro at audifans.com
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Yes indeed.. And get the whole KERS idea worked in there too!

-----Original Message-----
From: quattro-bounces at audifans.com [mailto:quattro-bounces at audifans.com]
On Behalf Of Tony Hoffman
Sent: March 30, 2009 6:08 PM
To: Hayes Myers
Cc: urq list; quattro at audifans.com
Subject: Re: Truth-in-24

I'm all for it!! I'd love to see today's technology put into action,
perhaps with simple limitations such as engine size or whatnot, and
allow technology to determine from there. Woa, group B cars would
suddenly look slow!! I'd love to see who would step up and volunteer to
drive them.

Tony

On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Hayes Myers <hayesmyers at gmail.com>
wrote:
> Audi should campaign in uWRC. ?I am going to start the Ultimate World 
> Rally Championship. Fully Open. No Rules. And No Soobs. :)
>
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