Snow tire help
Ben Kwan
1.8tquattro at gmail.com
Sun Oct 18 20:32:07 PDT 2009
Thank you for the replies.
I ran the Nordman 1's (purchased from Greg Galinksy) on my old 92 100CSq.
Loved the tire but I'm getting rid of the car.
If the Generals are anywhere close to those then I'll be fine this winter.
I'm still waiting for some replies on the Michelin X-ice before pulling the
trigger.
Thanks again.
Ben
On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 10:47 PM, Greg Smith <lifeisabirdie at yahoo.com>wrote:
> The General uses the old Gislaved Nordfrost 3 tread mold. As a dealer for
> Gislaveds, I have asked all the people that I can what the rubber chemisrty
> is. I know that in the Continental/General group there is a history of
> tread molds being shared. The old Nordfrost 2 got made into a Semperit ice
> Grip. The Semperit did not seem to work as well as the Gislaved nordfrost 2
> did; which kind of leaves the rubber chemisrty. It would be my guess that
> there is not a sharing of the chemisrty formulas between different brands
> within the same company. To this point I have not treid the General version
> in a timed event or when really pushing them. I have driven a few customer
> cars with them on and they responded ok. I didn't want to push a customer
> car like i do my own. My insights from selling the Nordfrost 3 over 4 years
> ago were that they had pretty decent lateral grip, fairly quiet on dry
> roads, good tread life and acceptable snow function. I
> really push my tires, over 30 years of ice trials have exposed me to lots
> of different conditions.
> It seems kind of odd that teh Continenal/General group would willlingly
> sell the Generals at teh price point that they are; if they had the same
> rubber chemisrty that the old Gislaveds did. They would canabilze their
> current Gislaved sales with that tactic.For 25 years I was a Nokian Hak
> believer. Since they moved to the hak 4 and RSi and the current Hak 5 abd
> Hak R models; I can't justify selling those tires at the price point they
> are at and the winter function that they seemed to have lost.I really like
> the current Gislaved nordfrost 5 tires.Greg GalinskyG & G Service
> --- On Sun, 10/18/09, Danton J.A. Cardoso <djacardoso at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: Danton J.A. Cardoso <djacardoso at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Snow tire help
> To: "LL - NY" <larrycleung at gmail.com>
> Cc: "Quattro" <quattro at audifans.com>
> Date: Sunday, October 18, 2009, 9:08 PM
>
> I use Yokohama Ice Guard's on my A4 Avant.... great tire, had them on
> for one season in Western NY, and we had a typical winter. Now, I am
> in Northeastern, MO, and they have held up well, although the snow
> here isn't as much as WNY. They are a bit noisy, on the dry, but what
> do you expect from a snow tire. They are on 15" steelies, far cry
> from my 17" Borbets.
>
> On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 8:44 PM, LL - NY <larrycleung at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I was all set to go for the Hakka R's until I priced them out. Couldn't
> > swing them.
> >
> > I've been through the rounds on the General Altimax Artics, that they
> > *may*be Nordfrost 3 clones (they certainly
> > *look* the part, but I couldn't get confirmation) or not, and then I read
> > the reviews on both TireRack (not one single complaint in the 11 pages of
> > reviews I read) and Consumers Report and concluded that they are probably
> a
> > safe bet. There were was also a meager $25 rebate on them at TireRack,
> > although that expired right after I purchased them.And at half the price
> of
> > the Hakka R's, and at better than $60 less than the Xi's. I did get
> > convinced possibly against my better judgement (based upon Kneale's
> > argument) by my local friend to go for the studs, from what I've seen in
> the
> > reviews, that'll make them unstoppable. Not sure I needed that,
> particularly
> > with the amount of highway travel I do. Nonetheless, I live in serious
> snow
> > country (like Kneale, and Bob Myers and all of the Coloradans). Mounting
> > them up on the Saabaru tomorrow, so no on the road experience yet. If
> they
> > work on the Saabaru, they'll be awesome on the the UrS, which overall has
> > proven a much more stable winter beast.
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 7:22 PM, Ben Kwan <1.8tquattro at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi everyone,
> >>
> >> I'm looking for a new set of snows and I've narrowed it down to two
> based
> >> on
> >> reading the archives.
> >>
> >> General Altimax Arctic (Nordforst 3 Clone?)
> >> or
> >> Michelin X-Ice Xi2
> >>
> >> The General's are going to be the cheaper of the 2 but Michelin is
> offering
> >> a $70 rebate on the Xi2's. The difference in price is going to be about
> >> $60
> >> after I get the rebate money back.
> >>
> >> How's the treadwear on the Xi2's for those of you that purchased last
> >> season? I've read that the tread depth isn't as deep as other snows but
> >> they are still an excellent performing tire.
> >>
> >> Which one would you choose if you were in my shoes?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Ben
> >>
> >> Current:
> >> 01 A4 1.8tq
> >> 99 Honda Accord V6
> >>
> >> Past:
> >> 90 100
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