Toyota UA-LAC
john at westcoastgarage.net
john at westcoastgarage.net
Wed Jan 27 09:33:02 PST 2010
pdooley wrote:
> I don't doubt the pedals are sticking, but I am wondering why the drivers
> don't just hit the brakes?
> I know for a fact that the engine in my wife's 09 toyota will not overpower
> the brakes.
>
>
One of the accidents involved a CHP officer and his family. In fact,
that's what finally brought the whole mess to the front pages. From
what I've read, it appears he flat out cooked the brakes in the Lexus
loaner in which he was "along for the ride" to his death. German cars,
for sure, and (I think) many DBW US cars, have a system whereby the
accelerator is rendered inoperative when the brakes are firmly applied.
Makes it difficult to bed in brake pads and rotors using traditional
techniques. Toyota, and possibly other Asian manufacturers, chose not
to implement this feature in their software. The pennies per car saved
by cheaping out on the software? Maybe there were potential royalties
involved? Arrogance regarding their media encouraged aura of
infallibility? The NY Times, some car oriented publications, the
broadcast media, and loads of "consumerist" online and print sites
considered Toyota the company that could do no wrong, the warm and
fuzzy one, the one whose cars eventually decompose and morph into a
friendly flowery meadow, the pinnacle of automotive environmentalism.
This despite the fact that Toyota's big engines and big vehicles
constitute a HUGE profit center, making up for the massive losses
incurred with the sale of each and every hybrid, while getting the
poorest fuel economy of anything in their class. Remember, if you tell
people something loud enough and long enough, most will believe what
you're saying. Think about it; Many of the people right here believe
XXXX FLAPS "has the right part at the right price", despite the fact
that's patently false. After all, they can't ALL fill that slot in the
price hierarchy. As for the other thoughts presented in this thread,
think about it Toyota IS NOT coming right out and dealing with it.
They've futzed around with this for about TWO years, and possibly a lot
longer. Most techs I know have dismissed the "carpet in the pedals" as
the crock it really is. As for the sticking throttle, I firmly believe,
and never surface in the media, that they have a massive (and VERY
scary) software problem, compounded by Toyota's "taking a chance" by
choosing to forgo the "failsafe" used by European manufacturers. This
is clearly covered by the now common phrase; "What were they thinking?"
Their spokesperson is now in the unenviable position of the US president
talking on the phone to the Russian premier in Dr. Strangelove
.................. "Dimitry .............?".
John
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