Re ISV electrisc

Sat Oct 16 21:38:08 PDT 2010

I think you mean Volts not Ohms!?
Rick
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>   1. Trial Balloon - mats w/ logo (Robert Myers)
>   2. Re: Retorque cylinder head bolts (Peter Orban)
>   3. RE: Some Fixes 88 90Q (George)
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> Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 07:06:00 -0400
> From: Robert Myers <bob at chips-ur-s.com>
> Subject: Trial Balloon - mats w/ logo
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> Hi Y'all,
>
> I've had a vague idea floating in my empty head (lotsa free space
> dontchaknow) for a while now.
>
> Fact #1:  Lloyds makes (or useta make anyway) carpet material floor
> mats in several colors which will custom fit our Audis.  Decent
> quality stuff but without any logo identification.  Frankly, I'd like
> to replace my old floor mats with new ones but would prefer to have
> the four ring logo on the new mats.  These appear to be totally
> NLA.  Lloyd's custom made mats are made to fit our cars and run ~$125
> or $85 depending on choice of four mat set or two mat set.  See this:
> http://www.autobarn.net/lloydultimats.html#bottom for example.
>
> Fact #2:  There are a number of companies which do custom
> embroidery.  I'm not sure they would be A) willing to work with the
> heavy material of floor mats and B) willing to do the four rings logo
> out of fear of copyright violation even though Audi no longer
> provides the items at all.  I have no idea what custom embroidery
> might cost but I'm sure that there will be a one time setup charge
> plus a per unit embroidery charge.  These costs per unit will almost
> certainly be lower if we have a larger number of items made.  The
> question is how much lower for how many items?
>
> If there might be sufficient interest to commit to purchase the basic
> mats up-front and then ship (drop ship maybe) the mats to the
> embroidery company (whoever that might be) and pay up front for their
> charges then I'd be willing to investigate to determine who might be
> willing to provide such a service and determine a cost per mat set if
> I can find someone.
>
> Question:  What colors would be preferred (black mats with silver
> rings, graphite mats w/ silver, brown mats w/ red or
> whatever)?  There may be some flexibility on the color combinations
> depending on the service provider.
>
> Question:  What size for the embroidered rings would be close to the
> original?  I can't provide any more than a guess at this point but if
> someone might happen to still have an original and can measure them
> that would be helpful.
>
> Question:  Does anyone have a good digital photo of an actual mat w/
> logo which you could send me?
>
> So:  if you are SERIOUSLY interested let me know fairly quickly so I
> can have some fairly solid numbers to use to discuss with the
> embroidery services.  Armed with numbers I can then do some inquiry
> to see what might be available.  This will almost certainly take a
> while so please be patient with me.  Also please realize that this is
> just a trial balloon which might just burst and end with zero
> actually accomplished.
>
> Bob
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 06:14:28 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Peter Orban <orbanp1 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: Retorque cylinder head bolts
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> Interesting talk about head bolts, we are doing a head gasket on my son's 
> car, a 91 Golf.
>
> The Bentley manual for the Mk2 Golf/Jetta, like the one quoted here for 
> the Audi, mentions that one can reuse the head bolts. (Same part number 
> for a '87 4kq and '91 Golf head bolt.)
>
> If the torquing process means stretching the bolts to the yield point why 
> would VW/Audi ever suggest not to replace the head bolts?
> BTW, VW/Audi never mentioned that those are stretch bolts...
>
> Thanks, Peter
>
> --- On Fri, 10/15/10, quattro-request at audifans.com 
> <quattro-request at audifans.com> wrote:
> ...
> To add to the confusion, in the Bentley book there is some notes, page 
> 15.13
> :
>
> Caution : do not retorque cylinder head bolts at first service or again
> after repairs.
> Note : It is not necessary to replace polygon head bolts when making 
> engine
> repairs. Bolts can be reused. However, new bolts are to be used in sets
> only.
>
> So, maybe the holes in the block were not clean enough to keep the 
> clamping
> force ? However, the block was cleaned in a caustic tank and prepped by a
> reputable shop. More, we installed the head and all exhaust plumbing on 
> the
> engine while it was in my shop. We then installed the complete drivetrain
> from under the car in a single step.
>
> Any ideas to prevent this loosening to happen on the upcoming rebuilt ? 
> I'm
> a bit tired of pulling the head on this car, since it is such a big task 
> to
> do it in situ with all the plumbing attached to it.
>
> Louis-Alain
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> Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 10:57:49 -0700
> From: "George" <gsidman at webloq.com>
> Subject: RE: Some Fixes 88 90Q
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> On the 20 valve 3B engine the ISV is mounted at the back of the throttle
> body in a rubber sleeve with two hose connections and a single two prong
> electrical connection.  Check the ISV electrics; should be +- 8 
> ohms........
>
> George Sidman
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