VW Diesel Transplant?

[John B]

Yes, I can tell you they are out there and pop up for sale time to time. I was in a driveway with an Audi 4000 turbo diesel, audi 4000 diesel, and 3 audi 5000 diesels all in front of me in Portland not more then a year ago! 

Now, finding one local and the one your looking for condition wise? No way. I flew to Portland from SFO to look at the 4k diesel but never drove it home. It's definitely the type of find you need money in the bank for and some pad for repairs. If the injection pump is missing, walk away, they are proprietary to the 5000 turbo diesel and unobtanium. If you find one, hit up Performance Diesel up in Canada for a pump rebuild, he can pull good gains with a pump rebuild and will replace the rubber seals with viton to avoid having to use a lot of sulfur additive. 

Now some tidbits on VW diesel engines just as an FYI:
Anything after 97 will be drive by wire, require a wiring harness, throttle pedal, and lotsa time wiring it up. More tuner friendly for power. 
Anything before the drive by wire is all mechanical with minimal wiring and a mechanical injection pump. Not tuner friendly for huge power, but you can have some gains to make it fun. 
The TDI and TDi varients will all have the 4 cylinder bolt pattern for the transmission as already stated. I have heard of folks using an adapter plate for mounting but know nothing of the specifics. 

Oh, and everything diesel is big cash. Pump rebuilds, engine work, head work, all of it expect to be spending way more then a gasoline engine. Complete engines themselves are gold on the ground....

OP: I hope this helps, but I think your barking up the wrong (expensive) tree. 


> Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 17:30:49 -0400
> From: donohue at nycap.rr.com
> To: auditony at gmail.com; djacardoso at gmail.com; turboquattro at shaw.ca; pre95 at live.com
> Subject: RE: VW Diesel Transplant?
> CC: quattro at audifans.com
> 
> Note the email address...he's in Canada, where there are probably available, unlike the US.  Also, just as a note of interest, there's an '83 5000 turbo diesel automatic on eBay right now.
> 
> 
> ---- "Danton J.A. Cardoso" <djacardoso at gmail.com> wrote: 
> > John B,
> > Where is he going to find one?
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: quattro-bounces at audifans.com [mailto:quattro-bounces at audifans.com] On
> > Behalf Of John B
> > Sent: Tuesday, 17 May, 2011 16:13
> > To: auditony at gmail.com; turboquattro at shaw.ca
> > Cc: quattro at audifans.com
> > Subject: RE: VW Diesel Transplant?
> > 
> > 
> > You know, you can always buy a 5000 turbo diesel engine...... bolts right
> > in, bolts to trans, no wiring (all mechanical). 
> > 
> > > Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 15:45:19 -0500
> > > Subject: Re: VW Diesel Transplant?
> > > From: auditony at gmail.com
> > > To: TurboQuattro at shaw.ca
> > > CC: quattro at audifans.com
> > > 
> > > A couple of things to consider. The 5000 has only the 5-cylinder
> > > bellhousing, which is different than the 4-cyl. The 80/90Q's had both, so
> > > you would want to use one of those transmissions, or something newer.
> > Other
> > > than that, motor mounts would probably be the most difficult thing to deal
> > > with. As for the clutch, Audi offered a 4-cyl Turbo diesel in the 4000, so
> > a
> > > clutch for that application, with a possible disc swap would work just
> > fine.
> > > 
> > > Tony
> > > 
> > > On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Richard Sargent
> > <TurboQuattro at shaw.ca>wrote:
> > > 
> > > > I'm wondering if it is possible to swap a VW turbo-diesel engine into an
> > > > Audi 5000 chassis. It occurred to me that the match of the Audi
> > galvanized
> > > > body with a rugged all-wheel-drive system, combined with the
> > fuel-economy of
> > > > the VW turbo-diesel could be a great match for my needs.
> > > >
> > > > Is such a swap possible? Are the bolt patterns for the bell-housing the
> > > > same? What problems might I have mating the VW clutch to the Audi
> > > > transmission?
> > > >
> > > > I'm sure that there would be many small details to work out, such as
> > motor
> > > > mounts and fuel delivery, but I'm curious what the list thinks of this
> > idea.
> > > >
> > > > Disclaimer: I've owned 7 type $$ Audis, and many turbo-diesels, so I'm
> > > > familiar with the strengths and weaknesses of both. I'm currently down
> > to
> > > > only one type 44, but have 3 turbo-diesels.
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