sanity check ...

[Vincent Gelinas]

I would never own a GM product... I've had lots of family members that have
had nothing but trouble from them.

Has anyone really lowered an A8?  I can imagine with the right (very mild)
body kit it would look like a missile cruising the freeway.

V
Scoffing at Prii since 1989!


On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Mark Rosenkrantz <speedracer.mark at gmail.com
> wrote:

> OK, so yeah, I have a Z06.  Best mileage car I currently own- 28 MPG on the
> highway, all day long.
>
> My daily driver is a 2003 Escalade EXT.  14-15MPG, owned it since new,
> currently has 165,000 miles on it!  I'm looking for a new vehicle, the GMC
> Acadia Denali is on the short list, primarily due to the 24MPG highway
> rating, 7 passenger seating, and 5000lb tow rating.  Wish I could get a
> manual transmission and a TDI (type) engine.
>
> You want low carbon footprint?  Go old, light, low power, low handling
> econobox (with no airbags, crash structure, ABS, etc.), or even something
> like a 1980's Rabbit GTi.  Save the planet.  After all, I need fuel for
> track events, so I thank-you in advance.  =)
>
> Or a Lotus.  Just don't bring more than a suitcase.
>
> Bottom line- weight is the enemy, and safety requires weight.  More weight
> means beefier suspension, stiffer chassis, and wider tires to support it
> all.  Ultra light weight materials aren't commercially viable for most of
> us.  Audi does lead the way with the A8, but stops short.  Where's the
> carbon fiber, or TDI engine?  And that's an expensive chassis.
>
> I'm sorry, pretty much any Audi owner can't complain about others wrecking
> the planet.  ;-)
>
> Oh, and lowering a car usually yeilds +2MPG.  One of the few performance
> items which RAISE fuel economy under all conditions.
>
> Mark Rosenkrantz
> PS- Steve, my 1987 Bertone (FIAT) X1/9 (which I still have in pieces), has
> cast magnesium 13" rims.  Super light...  In high school, about 4 of my
> friends grabbed the rear bumper (mid engine car), with me in it... and
> almost raised the suspension fully so the tires were off the pavement.  I
> looked back and said, "do you really want me to spin the tires right now?"
> LOL  It got 35-38 MPG with that 1.5L NA engine.
>
> On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Tess McMillan <tessmc at eskimo.com> wrote:
>
>> ha ha ha ha! &:-)
>>
>> Good point (made by the guy with the Z06)
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 26 Oct 2011, Mark Rosenkrantz wrote:
>>
>>  "creating more friction on the road" is an interesting way to look at
>>> it.... But isn't that the point?
>>> I'll take my luxury and performance, thank-you,
>>>
>>>
>>
>