[urq] True Short Shifter 016 Challenge

[Scott Justusson]

 Cody
I have driven the Audisport rally car linkage many times in this S2, as it was my "duty" to do the odo ck pre-rally...  However, just like the S1, it was equipped with the SMS 6 speed gearbox, with many internal mods.  
http://forums.audiworld.com/picture.php?albumid=163916&pictureid=230725
Detailed pix of the linkage Audisport did for the 016 (not S1, but A1/A2 design) can be found here:
http://www.bufkinengineering.com/finished%20shifter.htm

 and
http://www.bufkinengineering.com/linkage1.htm

The geometry is identical, save the 'typical' rise in the shifter mounting point, which reduces throw.  Taking out slop by 'heim jointing' can reduce the feel and 'incidentally' some of the travel in the "H" but that's not it's primary function nor design.  IME, it makes for a really notchy 016 shifter feel, but the thought of "short" shifter isn't the primary thought that comes to mind.

Cheers

Scott J


 

-----Original Message-----
From: Cody Forbes <cody at 5000tq.com>
To: Scott Justusson <qshipq at aol.com>
Cc: theringmeister <theringmeister at triad.rr.com>; s.b.mills <s.b.mills at gmail.com>; martin <martin at quattro.ca>; urq <urq at audifans.com>; suffolkd <suffolkd at aol.com>; quattro <quattro at audifans.com>
Sent: Mon, Sep 12, 2011 7:25 am
Subject: Re: [urq] True Short Shifter 016 Challenge


Maybe I'm mistaken, but the S1 style shifter should do the trick. I've seen one someplace before but don't recall where and since then have been unable to ever again find a picture of an S1 setup.. The geometry of the linkage surrounding the shifter lever in the car is entirely different, but I see no reason why it can't be used and should be able to be made to fit under a stock boot. 


I also have an idea at the transmission end of the linkage that would shorten left to right shifter movement without changing fore-aft.


One ASSumption I'm making is that the urQ 016 shifter is simmilar in design to the 5000. 

-Cody (mobile)

On Sep 12, 2011, at 1:12 AM, Scott Justusson <qshipq at aol.com> wrote:




 That's an interesting claim Cody....  Maybe you didn't understand the project as I presented it.  The short 'throw' is easy enough problem to solve 'external' to the transmission, but a tight "H" pattern is not.  Since the "H" (lateral) throw is internal to the transmission, we figured one would need an additional lever arrangement to operate the gear selector shaft, effectively reducing the required motion at the shifter.  Since that 016 shift linkage arrangement is not on a single plane, and the room for a lever multiplier was just too darn tight in the urq, we bagged the idea, and went back to drinking beers.

That said, if I missed something really basic, by all means don't just email it to me, a lot of folks would love a *true* short throw/tight H 016.

Cheers

Scott J
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I know how to make the shifter you desire. Ill have to draw it up and email it.







-Cody (mobile)