4000 Quattro stuck in neutral w/ stiff clutch pedal

[Grant Lenahan]

nver said you could not. I said, no one explained what they meant.

Grant
On Dec 19, 2012, at 12:18 AM, Ed Kellock wrote:

> I have started cars in gear dozens of times when I had clutch issues.
> Broken cable in a GTI, poor or toast hydraulics in several different Audis,
> even in a Ford SuperDuty flatbed. I navigated downtown Denver in summer in
> my urq with toasted hydraulics and a cracked firewall. Once those two issues
> were corrected, it drives great... the clutch is fine.
> 
> Ed
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Grant Lenahan [mailto:glenahan at vfemail.net] 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 5:32 AM
> To: Ed Kellock
> Cc: 'Rory [Armodis]'; quattro at audifans.com
> Subject: Re: 4000 Quattro stuck in neutral w/ stiff clutch pedal
> 
> 
> OK, o if the clutch is engaged and you then engage the starter, the car will
> lurch forward.
> 
> I heard nothing about that.  It may start, it may not, i see no connection
> between whether the motor starts and if the clutch is good.
> 
> Maybe being to precise and literal, but that was the statement.
> 
> Grant
> On Dec 17, 2012, at 11:12 PM, Ed Kellock wrote:
> 
>> Engine not running. Select first gear. No foot on clutch pedal. Engage 
>> starter.
>> 
>> Ed
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Grant Lenahan [mailto:glenahan at vfemail.net]
>> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 5:47 AM
>> To: Ed Kellock
>> Cc: 'Rory [Armodis]'; quattro at audifans.com
>> Subject: Re: 4000 Quattro stuck in neutral w/ stiff clutch pedal
>> 
>> 
>> i think you guys may be talking pat each other. Define "starting in 
>> gear"...
>> 
>> Grant
>> On Dec 16, 2012, at 10:05 PM, Ed Kellock wrote:
>> 
>>> No. In my opinion a "bad clutch" will not connect the engine to the
>>> rest of the drivetrain. If you can start it in gear, it's connected. 
>>> In fact, with at least 3 of my cars, starting the car in gear was the 
>>> only saving grace when the clutch hydraulics failed. I could come to a 
>>> stop, kill the engine, engage 1st gear, start the engine in gear, and 
>>> shift without the clutch by matching gears. In each case, the clutch 
>>> slave was bad, however the clutch master also failed shortly 
>>> thereafter in all but one.
>>> 
>>> Ed
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: quattro-bounces at audifans.com
>>> [mailto:quattro-bounces at audifans.com] On Behalf Of Rory [Armodis]
>>> Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 7:53 PM
>>> To: quattro at audifans.com
>>> Subject: RE: 4000 Quattro stuck in neutral w/ stiff clutch pedal
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Someone interested in buying the 4kq asked if the car could be 
>>> started
>>> in gear, which it could before the battery died. The buyer said that 
>>> would mean the clutch is bad. Does this sound accurate? 
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