Comparo

Jeremiah@curryclan.net jeremiah at curryclan.net
Mon Jan 7 12:30:57 PST 2013


Only the 2.7T was available in 2001.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Grant Lenahan
Sent: Monday, January 7, 2013 9:30 AM
To: Jeremiah at curryclan.net
Cc: Vincent Gelinas ; quattro at audifans.com
Subject: Re: Comparo

Which motor do you have?

Grant
On Jan 7, 2013, at 9:55 AM, Jeremiah at curryclan.net wrote:

> I have a 2001 allroad that I bought with 89k and now has 111k.  In that 
> time I have rebuilt the tiptornic ($5,000) and it feels like it is going 
> again. The cam follower seals are going out ($500) but not urgent.  The 
> front air suspension went out ($1000 from arnot)  The air suspension 
> computer went out (~300 used).  Even with those replaced parts, the 
> suspsension doesn't like to go all the way up and goes into error mode 
> when I try.  (after being properly calibrated with vagcom)  The cold air 
> blower or something like that (emissions stuff) is going bad too.
>
> The car is nice on-road, and is great offroad or for carrying things. 
> However beware that the Tiptronic in the allroad is that bad, not only in 
> reliability, but in lag.  Look up tip lag and allroad and you can read all 
> about it.  If you have the option of a MT that should be much better and 
> also help with the mileage.  I get ~20 mpg around town or on the highway.
>
> Maybe I was just spoiled by my 91 200 20v but the allroad just isn't as 
> well put together.  The electornics, display, etc. are all failing when 
> most still worked with twice as many miles in my 200.  The electric 
> mirrors don't work, the windshield sprayers don't work, the electric seat 
> switch fell off, the display only works half of the time, half of the 
> driver side heated seats don't work, the radio volume doesn't work right,
>
> Don't get me wrong, I like the car, and would really like a MT one, but 
> they are not the same quality of Audis of Yore.  Not sure if the newer 
> ones are better, but I sure hope so.
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Vincent Gelinas
> Sent: Monday, January 7, 2013 7:23 AM
> To: Grant Lenahan
> Cc: quattro at audifans.com
> Subject: Re: Comparo
>
> Grant,
>
> Happy new year, too! Thanks for getting back so soon.
>
> What minor issues does the 4.2 have? Does the timing belt have the same
> high mileage guide issues as the chain?
>
> I won't be driving dirt roads much for too much longer; another month or
> two till I move to a paved part of town with decent Internet!
>
> Assuming no prior history on either vehicle (as is common when buying 
> as-is
> from someone other than the PO), which would you recommend?
>
> Thanks,
>
> V
> On Jan 7, 2013 9:16 AM, "Grant Lenahan" <glenahan at vfemail.net> wrote:
>
>> Hello, and HNY,
>>
>> I've had both motors. Both are durable,  The 2.7 has two issues:
>> 1. niggly plumbing issues
>> 2. the turbos themselves
>>
>> The turbos are fine if you - and the PO - maintain them. They are less of
>> an issue in the A6 chassis than int he B5 S4, where the enclosed area
>> caused heat issues.
>>
>> Check the turbos.  Obviously check on TB.
>>
>> My concern on the Allroad is the air suspension. I don't know the 
>> figures,
>> but at worst you replace it with metal. Maybe $2k at some point.
>>
>> I now have an S6 (4.2, but with timing belt, not chain). Its  a great
>> motor but thirsty and has its own minor issues.
>>
>> For someone who drives dirt roads, and if you want to carry stuff, i'd
>> consider the Allroad strongly.
>>
>> Incidentally, the TIPs are not that bad if you use them within their
>> torque limits and service them every 50k.
>>
>> Grant
>>
>> On Jan 7, 2013, at 9:10 AM, Vincent Gelinas wrote:
>>
>> > Hi, all!
>> >
>> > It's been a while since I last wrote asking a question; I figured I was
>> > overdue to bug everyone.
>> >
>> > My 2012 Chevy Sonic by the name of Pepper was totalled on Christmas day
>> by
>> > the only large rock to stick out of the ditch on my dirt road. Blame 
>> > the
>> > ice (I almost had her out of the skid, too!).
>> >
>> > Since I miss my Audis, I'm going to get something from Chris down at
>> > Force5. I have two options since I'm not messing with another Tiptronic
>> > after my A8q.
>> >
>> > Choice one: 2002 Allroad, 6M 2.7tt. Choice two: 2004 S4, 6M 4.2 40v.
>> >
>> > I'm leaning toward the S4 even though I may lose some fuel economy and
>> > practicality simply because I've heard nightmare stories about the
>> biturbo
>> > and the air suspension. The 40v, I hear, is a pretty robust and beastly
>> > engine.
>> >
>> > Any BTDT? Stories going either way would be much appreciated.
>> >
>> > TIA,
>> >
>> > Vincent
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