Robotic Audi
aaron jongbloedt
jungle at hickorytech.net
Fri Jan 11 08:13:42 PST 2013
A friend and I keep talking about buying a pole shed and stuff it full
of older cars....I would buy a bunch of VW jetta/golfs from 94~99 w/ the
4cyl & 5spd.....
-good mpg, easy to work on, cheap parts, I know the chassis......keep
driving them, and when one dies, just pull another one out of storage.
I for one am SUPER excited about robotic cars....something like 75% of
traffic flow issues are a result of human error! Just think about
it.....no more stop & go in rush hour, no more slamming on the brakes cuz
some @ss wipe cut you off, no more two or three lane changes at once,
better gas mileage, less time on the road, and everyone merges perfectly.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Arman
To: "quattro at audifans.com"
Subject: Robotic Audi
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 10:23:38 -0500
Kent writes:
> Ha! Let's see it in 10 years when its sensors start flaking out.
>
> "Oh, it needs a new infrared parking sensor. That'll be $945, plus
> 4 hours labor for installation."
>
> "No, we're not responsible for the dent in your bumper, or the
damage
> it caused to the other car."
I see this as eventually becoming a serious problem.
First, as we well know, cars are becoming exponentially more
complex - integrated touch-screen controls are a perfect example.
When one of these fails (and as we well know, they WILL fail), the
entire car becomes inoperable. There's no "limp mode", you're stuck.
As the cars get older, replacement parts will become harder and
harder to come by, more and more expensive, and eventually will
simply be unobtanium. When that happens, the REST of the car, most
of which may be perfectly serviceable, is going to be junked.
Here are two current examples - 2005-2007 Ford Focus -
non-replaceable air filter "never needs service!!" Has an indicator
to show it needs the entire air box assembly (with the filter
sealed inside) replaced. $545 from Ford - for an AIR FILTER!!
I didn't believe it, and I had my parts guy at FLAPS look it up (he
didn't believe it, either) - when he did, there it was . . .
Turns out Dorman makes a replacement air box for $120 or so, then
you can use a standard $10 air filter when the time comes.
Next they'll weld the gas tank shut so they can say "Never needs
gasoline!" When the indicator reads "E", you just buy a new car.
Example 2 - Dodge PT Cruiser 2003 to 2005 or 6 (I think). Headlight
goes out, change a $10 bulb, right? Nope, "Headlight Control
Module" $2,500 (holy crap!). Probably available rebuilt/exchange by
now, but since I gag every time I see a PT Cruiser, I haven't
investigated it.
Result will be many of these things will soon be scrapped because
nobody is going to spend $2,500 to fix a headlight on a $2,500 car,
and there will be a BIG market developing in stolen PT cruiser
electronics. When these cars start disappearing into chop shops,
theft insurance on them is going to go WAY up . . .
Many of these "can't-run-your-car-without-it" devices are totally
proprietary, so we will increasingly be at the mercy of the
dealers. The $945 parking sensor will probably cost three times
that, remember it is imported from Germany (originally made in
China).
I don't even want to guess what the touch screen controller in the
new Caddies costs.
I'm looking at a Chebby Volt, but have serious questions if anyone
other than the dealer will be able to fix it after the warranty
runs out.
It appears to me that the car manufacturers are really looking
forward to making cars using the consumer electronics mode. When
the TV or cell phone or computer breaks, we usually just pitch it
and buy a new one, nobody fixes these things, even when there isn't
much wrong.
That's where cars are going - constant upgrade cycles, don't repair
anything, just get a new one - but cars are a LOT more expensive
than cell phones as well as a lot bigger and a lot harder to
dispose of.
They're going to price themselves right out of the market - incomes
are not rising anywhere as fast as average car prices, and repair
costs for these modern (and future) electronics-laden cars are
about to blast off into orbit.
On the bright side, bicycles are still cheap, and the exercise is
reputed to be good for us . . .
Best Regards,
Mike Arman
90V8Q
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-Nexus Information Systems Engineer
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