Resurrecting an '86 5KCSTQ

[Alex Kowalski]

As an aside I hadn't visited the main Audifans.com page in a long time and
I'm very sad to learn at this late date of Phil Payne's passing away.  When
I first started reading the Quatto List a long, long, long time ago Phil
was one of the people who convinced me that the folks on this list really
knew what they were talking about and with absolutely zero snark I'd like
to honor his memory by saying that he really, truly did know.  Whatever
perceived arrogance that carried with it was balanced by his wonderful
sense of humor and I now miss him more than a lot of other people who have
passed away since then.  Godspeed, Phil and thanks for all your efforts,
you were always first rank.

A



On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 11:44 AM, Alex Kowalski <hypereutectic1 at gmail.com>wrote:

> Yes after thinking about it overnight I'm going to check for voltage at
> the pump first, detemine if it is frozen, and then see if I can free it
> up.
>
> I'll make sure to keep the connections far enough away that I'm not
> endangering house, home and self through the any sparks that might evolve.
> I always keep an extinguisher at hand when starting a car that hasn't run
> in this long - when we did the cranking we had the hood open and the
> extinguisher at the ready and were prepared with rubber gloves to pull the
> ignition at the coil in case of a stuck throttle.  We'll be safe.
>
> It cranked over very smoothly though, the timing belt is fine, it has
> compression and spark, so I'm optimistic this is a fuel issue that can be
> solved pretty easily.
>
> Thanks and I'll let you know how it goes!
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 10:05 PM, John Cody Forbes <cody at 5000tq.com> wrote:
>
>> I misread the first message and thought you said you CAN hear the pump,
>> my apologies. The pump is likely to be frozen. Check for power across the
>> two larger wires at the 4-pin connector on the top of the fuel tank lid. If
>> there is power there and the pump doesn't run you have a frozen or failed
>> pump.
>>
>> My usual process to free the pump is to remove the pump and soak it in
>> solvent over night. Then using a car battery and some jumper wires apply
>> pulses of power. You'll want to reverse the polarity periodically to help
>> try to jar the pump free. Pulsing it done by connecting the wires safely to
>> the pump terminals a few feet away from your battery so sparks cant get
>> near the pump, holding one to the battery positive terminal, and tap the
>> other wire on the battery negative like you are sending Morse code. You'll
>> notice the pump making a "thud" as if it is trying to turn. Eventually
>> you'll hear it change as the pump starts to break free, and finally the
>> pump will start to spin and will spit out some crud. Please be very very
>> away of the potential fire risk that your fuel/solvent soaked pump will
>> present and only follow this procedure if you are comfortable and confident
>> that you have minimized all risk and have an extinguisher nearby. If you
>> aren't comfortable with it you should just buy a new pump and I'll buy the
>> frozen pump from you ;-).
>>
>>
>> -Cody Forbes
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Alex Kowalski
>> Sent: Friday, July 05, 2013 7:45 PM
>> To: Quattro List
>> Subject: Re: Resurrecting an '86 5KCSTQ
>>
>> And yes I put 2 gallons of Premium in the tank before cranking the engine.
>> Zilch.
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