headliner install

[Nicholas Miller]

Two people really helps.  I used the 3m contact adhesive, it worked out for
me.  The area in question is difficult, i hope you are using a material
that stretches/confroms a good bit.  In the end, you can stick the head
liner down and pull it back off in the first minute if you need to go back,
but that's about it.

I wouldn't worry as much about it, if you have the right material, a
helper, and patience, it isn't that bad.

I never removed seats, I just lay them all the way down and move them all
the way forward, this is on a V8Q.  Wasn't an easy job, no doubt.  But I
used a really nice suede on all the a-b-c pillars and the roof, it was a
really nice job.

In case you hadn't I completely stripped the headliner down to the base
material.  The new Headliner material I used had no foam backing and wasn't
headliner material, but had enough stretch to work.  If you get the
foam-backed style fabric meant for headliners, it is loads easier to do.
The suede I used is typical for furniture, but looks incredibly nice.

Cheers,

Nick

On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 5:28 PM, DeWitt Harrison <dewitt635 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Well that certainly validates my concerns. I will give the adhesive choice
> more thought in terms of working time. I had been ready to use a 3M
> transfer tape adhesive which has aggressive grip on low surface energy
> materials such as paper -- the stuff sticks to wax paper like you wouldn't
> believe -- and a very high temperature rating, because the OEM adhesive
> apparently contains unobtainium. I think this may have to do with high VOC
> content vs. current corporate green policies. If anyone knows differently,
> please let me know. (Old OEM p/n = AKL40700005, new OEM p/n = D190MKDA3).
> By the way, the 27 year old, factory applied adhesive was still very tacky
> and pliable and doing a great job. It was the foam-backed fabric covering
> of the headliner which needed to be fixed.
>
> DeWitt Harrison
> '88 5ktq
>
> On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 1:30 PM, Paul Caouette <paxnobis at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I had the same trouble...and didn't get everything lined up....yuvck!
> >
> > Promised myself next time I'd use a mastic  or glue with some set time
> > that would allow me time to move thins around....Fabricating some prop
> > sticks to keep things tight while the glue sets shouldn't be that big
> > a deal. 2 x2s and thin plywood paddle to eliminate any chance of a
> > ding...
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 1:22 PM, DeWitt Harrison <dewitt635 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > Any btdt on installing a headliner into a type 44 with sunroof or
> Audi/VW
> > > of similar headliner configuration? All the removal, refurbish and prep
> > > have been done. I'm just having a hard time pulling the trigger on the
> > > final step of gluing in the new headliner shell because it seems very
> > > problematic to get the sunroof opening trim and all the accessory
> > mounting
> > > point openings (sun visor clips, grab handles, etc.) lined up
> > > simultaneously before the instant grab contact adhesive touches the
> roof
> > > sheet metal. It looks like it must be perfect first try or it's trash.
> > Too
> > > scary. Lot's of questions like "Did you have to remove the seats?" "How
> > > many people did it take?"
> > >
> > > DeWitt Harrison
> > > '88 5ktq
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