[s-cars] Eibach spacer answer

[jeff posto]

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Jim,
Thanks for the common sense remarks. You're right that the spring length has to be constant regardless of shock type.
Question: Are any listers out there who installed Eibach within 2002?
(my arbitrary date selection)
If yes, is your car level?
Jeff
 jimk at spotgraphicsinc.com wrote:--
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That's great and all, but will DC at Eibach pick up the extra cost of
taking them back out again when it's not level? Further, the problem is
apparently only with Bilstein shocks. It is unlikely that Eibach will
supply 2 different springs depending on which third-party shock you
select. If they make the springs longer, anyone with Koni's etc would
have the back be too HIGH.
Anyway, don't mean to rant, thanks for doing the research and keeping on
this, Jeff.
Jim K
93S4 all level
90CQ mit soon-to-be installed GDM Oettinger spring/shock kit

jeff posto wrote:

> Eibach-Bilstein spacer pursuit continues.
>
> SO I got a call back from DC at Eibach (X114) and I happened to be at
> the phone today.
>
> I describe the S4/6 spring/shock situation and the GP that occurred,
> where BO provided a 10mm spacer to compensate for rear sag. I asked DC
> to find the part number. He places me on hold for a while and gets
> back on the line.
>
> DC tells me there is no such spacer-part called out in the Eibach
> database, and that if the special spacer was required at one time,
> Eibach would respond with a slightly higher spring height. DC says the
> Eibach method is intended to be easy without adjustment-spacers. He
> did find a part number for the front (1529FR). Which we do not need.
>
> My summary: Peter once wrote that the initial spacers provided were to
> small in diameter. That BO replaced them with larger steel spacers.
> This makes sense because when I measured my Bilstein Sports, the front
> is smaller than the back shock.
>
> SO I don't have a part number for you guys. DC recommended that I try
> it as he expects the car should be level.
>
> End of saga. I think I'll get some grooves machined into the Bilstein
> body for adjustment after the install.
>
>
>
> Jeff Posto
>
> joeamund wrote:
>
> Jim!
> I don't know if it is relevant but my car came equipped with
> Eibach front/and
> rear springs(1516001V and 1516002HA) and Koni(86-2149) front
> shocks but
> Sachs(881700114079) rear shocks.
>
> When changing the rear shocks the diameter of the new Koni
> was different and
> smaller, OD 42mm compared to OD 49mm on the Sachs which also
> had ten grooves
> for adjustability of the lower spring-support with 10mm
> between the grooves. I
> later measured another S6 with Boge(4A9 513 031D) rear
> shocks and it had OD
> 46mm but the same diameter on the spring.
>
> I regret not buying the Sachs shocks again for the rear
> since I ended up
> making two rings/spacers. One for the different diameter and
> one for the
> adjustment of the spring-support at the bottom. It would
> have bin a lot easier
> to adjust the ride height just moving the locking ring.
>
> All this said i assume the lower spring-support is different
> on various models
> on our cars depending on which shock the car came with from
> the factory and
> diameter of the spring. The the solution is probably to make
> an adapter-ring
> if the shocks and springs is already paid for, or do as Hap
> did, put an
> adjustable coilover at the rear.
>
> Reg Joern
>
>
>
>
> >===== Original Message From jimk at spotgraphicsinc.com =====
> >I looked everywhere and can't find the ones I have. I can't
> believe I got
> rid of
> >them as I was able to find several blown/cut hoses, a bad
> MAF, a bad coil, a
> bad
> >PSO, and all kinds of other defective/broken Audi parts.
> All of a sudden I'm
> >totaling up the repair costs to date and no, bad idea,
> don't ever total
> anything
> >up.... Anyway, I will keep looking, they'll turn up
> eventually.
> >Jim
> >
> >Peter Anderson wrote:
> >
> >> OMG was it really a couple of years ago already? That's
> scary.
> >>
> >> In my numerous emails / tel calls with Eibach at the
> time, " Bo" was one
> of
> >> the people that helped straighten things out. (we were
> first sent the
> wrong
> >> springs) As things were clarified we asked about the
> sagging issue and
> they
> >> produced the (rear) spacer for our application. I can't
> find any of those
> >> messages so I can't get into the specifics. The first set
> of spacers they
> >> sent were too small a diam. They subsequently sent out
> correctly sized
> >> pieces. The first were anodized or powder coated black
> and the second
> >> (correct) set was cad plated steel. I may still have that
> 1st set of
> >> spacers laying around...
> >>
> >> --
> >> Peter Anderson
> >> 93 S4 6speed
> >>
> >> On 08/07/02 3:26 PM, "jimk at spotgraphicsinc.com"
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Fellas,
> >> > In regard to the spacer to use for the Eibach springs
> with Bilstein
> shocks,
> >> > the
> >> > answer is to call the 1-800 number on the Eibach
> website, ask for "Bo" in
> >> > customer
> >> > service. (I suppose you could email him too) Tell him
> what you need, he
> has
> >> > the
> >> > spacers there (he's the guy that was in charge of
> getting them made for
> the
> >> > group
> >> > purchase a couple of years ago and still had some
> fairly recently). I
> don't
> >> > know
> >> > a part number (or if there even is one), but ask for
> him, he will know
> exactly
> >> > what you want. Very good customer service in my
> experience.
> >> > He will charge you $20 UNLESS you bought the springs
> with the Group
> Purchase
> >> > and
> >> > IIRC, that includes postage.
> >> >
> >> > However, I do not know if this will solve Frederic's
> problem as he has
> Koni's.
> >
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