[s-cars] 2B Camber Plates

[CLAG500 at aol.com]

Bob,

  You're exactly right about the toe. It's drastically affected by camber
changes. I doubt if just marking the tie rod adjusters would be very accurate
either as a little bit goes a long way and it takes a lot of fiddling to get
it even close. The S4 is pretty tolerant of out of spec toe adjustment
though. I didn't notice mine was off until the tires were trashed.

Chad Tobin

In a message dated 12/12/02 4:27:05 PM Central Standard Time,
bob.rossato at att.net writes:

<< I don't know if this has been answered yet as I seem to be experiencing
delays
 in getting mail, but here goes.

 The main issue is that it's not just as simple as loosening the top of the
 strut and moving it to a predetermined position for your track camber
setting.
 The minute you do that you have also affected your toe settings.  The tie rod
 is cantilevered out from the strut axis so when you move the top of the strut
 to adjust your camber you pivot the strut around the tie rod.  If you
normally
 run -0.5deg for street and then change it to -2.0deg for track you will have
 seriously toed out wheels and you need to shorten the length of the steering
 rack by adjusting the tie rods to bring it back in.  So as a minimum you need
 to readjust the toe at the front whenever you change the camber settings.

 Then ideally you should be dialing in more camber in the rear as well to
 optimize your track settings.  This has the same effect on rear toe but with
 the added complication that you need to make sure that you set your toe with
 respect to the front wheels and make sure you're symetrical, otherwise your
 rear end will be dog tracking.  This gets a bit more complicated.

 If you chooose to run the same rear settings for both street and track, you
 could adjust your front end at the track with basic alignment equipment, a
 camber gauge and a trammel bar.

 Bob

 > I didn't get a straight answer on that, I did ask but I don't think he
 > understood me correctly or I didn't understand Ken properly (more than
likely
 > me...). He seemed to indicated yes, but you have to have the right
equipment to
 > do it because it's tricky? Seems to me if you go for an alignment and ask
for
 > both setups then mark the positions it should be possible to do? I think a
more
 > knowledgeable expert like Igor would need to chime in on this one.
 >
 > /Jamu.
 >
 >  -----Original Message-----
 >  From:   TM [SMTP:t44tq at mindspring.com]
 >  Sent:   December 11, 2002 5:42 PM
 >  To: 'James Murray (LMC)'; CaptMagu at aol.com; pete3633 at bellsouth.net;
 > neilsphoto at yahoo.com; 'Michael DeBlasio'; 'John Petersen';
 > s-car-list at audifans.com
 >  Subject:    RE: [s-cars] 2B Camber Plates
 >
 >  So James-
 >  Any word on if the $500 2Bennett camber plates can adjust camber
 >  back to -0.5 deg. for my H&R lowered car and then go to -2.0 deg.
 >  for the track?
 >
 >  If so, I'll be getting them next season.
 >
 >  Taka
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