[s-cars] I love the dealer's story

[Bjørn Eirik Ødegård]

Oh boy..
I've followed this thread, as I really don't think the 'pros' do a much better job than us 'amateurs'. Also the customer treatment seems a bit odd, especially the 'change of heart' bit. I'm a bit prone to say 'Don't leave the 'new engine' approach', but if you get a 'new' head, #4 piston and a 1 year full warrant, it won't be bad either. You get a rebuilt engine, with a chance of upgrading some of the bits.

One  thing that hasn't been mentioned: What about the turbo?? A small splinter or debris from the piston/valve/head might crack a vane or induce a premature breakdown. _Very_ hard to check? Any BTDT on this issue?

Nice car collection, Rich!

Bjorn, Norway  *<:o)
'92 S4 etc..

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Molk" <rmolk at cox.net>
To: <S-CAR-List at audifans.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 3:20 AM
Subject: [s-cars] I love the dealer's story


> Ok, Ok, let's get on with it. First, I am using my son's computer (his
> name is David, Mine is Richard
> Second, did the motor run after they botched the timing belt? Yeah.
> The customer service guy told me on the second day when I arrived to
> pick up the car after the timing belt, and 24 hours after it was
> promised, that it made some funny noises when they started it up, and
> so they had to change the timing a bit, but don't worry, it will be
> ready the next day by noon for sure.
> When I asked him if it was an interference fit motor, as I suspected it
> was, he said OH NO, not an interference fit. Then he told me I looked
> angry and he did not like my "snide appearance". Yes that is what he
> said.  I told him I was not snide, just furious, as it was going to
> take three days for a one day fix. Furthermore, I suspected he was
> wrong about the interference fit and that the pistons had contacted the
> valves.
> That was my first contact with THE LIST. I got you guys off google, and
> Chad Tobin was nice enough to confirm my fears that the motor was
> indeed interference fit.
> I told this to the dealer tech consultant (and assorted other titles)
> the next day, and both he and the service manager admitted the motor
> had been started. In fact, the tech told me by the sound of the motor
> only one valve had been damaged. I told him that was just untrue, so he
> said, well, then maybe two valves.
> Now on to the motor. I have rebuilt a couple of volvo motors, an alfa
> romeo motor and a motorcycle motor. I love the grease. This head has
> both of the large valves in the number four cylinder (intake?) bent in
> the fully open position and locked up in a C shape to come back and
> contact the inside edge of the dome of the head. The piston has a score
> in the edge of the cut out for the valves to clear the top of the
> piston, where I assume it is already quite thin because of the valve
> clearance cut outs. I cannot imagine the valve guides are ok when the
> valves are this bent, so bent they cannot possible close, and must have
> repeatedly beat the pistons, until they were crushed enough out of the
> way.
<snip>
>
> Again, thank you all for your support and help.
>
> Rich Molk on my son David's computer, hence his name appearing on the
> email header.
>
> 95 S6 severely wounded
> 98 A6
> 71 Jaguar V12 (not yet running)
> '90 Corvette ZR 1 (the beast)
> 67 Sunbeam tiger (my 300 HP rebuilt from scratch V8 killer - no it
> can't be driven around turns with the steering wheel you have to hang
> the back end out)
> 99 Ford diesel pickup (my usual ride to Hoffman's Audi, maybe that's
> why they don't feel they have to respect me?)
> 99 Volvo v70R
> 2000 Volvo v70R
> Upside down 65 Sunbeam tiger I have nearly finished the welding on and
> have a full restoration planned
>
> I told you I like working on cars.
>
> Keep the ideas coming. I think you guys are the true experts.
>
> Rich Molk
>
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