[s-cars] IA vs MTM......This is Jimmy's input

[Keith Maddock]

I'll second Jimmy's comments on Ned's support.  When I first got my ECU chipped by Ned, there were some issues installing it, and he spent 30 minutes on the cell phone helping me through my problems.  When I was on OneLap, he spent a considerable amount of time and effort helping me troubleshoot my "over/extra boost" issue.  However to be fair, I should note that a couple of times he has been slow to return a phone call or email.

I have what I would believe is referred to as the "Stage 4" software, for the RS2 (or similar hybrid) turbos, which runs up to 25 psi boost and uses the 3 bar xducer.  While not directly comparable to K24 Stage 3 or 3+, I will say my software is very smooth on the boost delivery, and in partial throttle conditions.

I also have experience with the Lehmann Stage I software, that I was running on my 91 200q20v, as purchased from Keith Anderson through Charlie Miller's GP a couple years ago.  That software was also very smooth on the boost delivery, and increased boost at both the low end and the high end.  I was very happy with my experience with Keith Anderson in his rapid turnaround of the ECU, and with the performance of the software.

I recommend either supplier (Anderson/Lehmann and Ned-IA), however if I ever need to buy software for a UrS in the states, my money goes to Ned.  (If I am buying a I-5 S here in Germany, then I will buy local software :) )

-Keith
(In Koblenz, Germany, apartment hunting!)
93 S4 (w/ IA Stage 4, moving to Portland in 2 weeks)
01 S2K (w/ Stock ECU, still for sale, price reduced to $26.9k)
74 260Z (w/ Hitachi licensed SU "carb control software", most likely being sold soon)
91 200q20v (w/ Lehmann Stage I, RIP courtesy of U-haul)

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Keith Maddock, TRW Automotive, Livonia, Michigan
Slip Control Software Design, Traction Control Systems
(734) 266 - 3971   -   -   keith.maddock at trw.com

>>> Jimmy Pribble <Jimmy at texasbankers.com> 06/18/02 09:19AM >>>
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I mostly echo Bob Pastore's comments.  The only real difference is that I
have not actually ever purchased anything from Ned.  Hmmm, need to do
something about that.

MTM/Hoppen: Like Bob said, the Stage 1+ is the shiznit.  It's the Binary
Bomb that's always on baby!  Lots of hyperbole in the archives.  Find it,
read it, believe it.  The software has my full endorsement.  However...I
could never make direct contact with Hoppen (the company).  Among other
possibilities, this almost certainly has to do with the fact that Hoppen has
continued to service new models and I promise you that we are not even on
the radar any more (and actually haven't been for some time).  My solution
to this customer service issue was to develop a good relationship with Keith
Anderson (we kind of have that "Good ol' Boy" (tm) thing going on), who has
a good relationship with Mike Hoppen and that has seemed to do the trick.
I'm about to upgrade my MTM Stage 1+ to Stage 3+ through
Anderson/Hoppen/MTM.  I'll let you know how that goes.

IA: I have ridden in Keith Maddock's "One Lap" S4, which uses Ned's hybrid
turbo and Stage III software.  The ride was too isolated for me to make any
comparisons, but the car was very fast.  Ned worked very closely with me as
I prepared to help support Keith's car during his local stint during the One
Lap.  Keith was having problems (with his car, not with Ned's software) on
the road and Ned was remotely diagnosing the problems and trying to work
with everyone to get them solved.  We even coordinated an overnight package
delivery to the track location, in the hopes that some particular hardware
would do the trick.  As others have already said, Ned will give you first
class support and will work with you if you decide to develop your car
further.  Unlike Hoppen (anymore), Ned still just specializes in the I5
Turbo.  We are definitely on his radar.  Heck, he's here right now!  ;-)

Mine the archives.  There is tons of BTDT.  Certainly, there will always be
a few dissenting opinions, but look for the trends and you will find the
truth.

Now, let's get back to the TAP vs. Motodyne debate...

Jimmy P.

"I was sitting at the light at McNeil and 183 this morning waiting to turn
onto 183 when I heard a roar and a whoosh and there was a flash of dark red
off to my left. If I was not mistaken I think it was Jimmy's S4..."

Godfrey Sherriff, Austin Audi Club
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