[s-cars] Re: 26mm rear swaybar

serge serge411 at speakeasy.org
Thu Jun 20 02:29:00 EDT 2002


on 6/19/02 9:12 AM, QSHIPQ at aol.com at QSHIPQ at aol.com wrote:

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> Feico:
> This is suspension 101.
> Quattros aren't "unique" handling cars, they mimic FWD character, as they
> should, most of the weight is over the front end of the car.  If you haven't
> changed weight distribution, they will understeer.  And, to get a BETTER
> handling car, the front rate is increased first, THEN the rear 'might' be.
> The problem I have with rear swaybars on S cars is that they are known to
> lift wheels sooner than without them.  Which means, in ANY performance
> comparo, the rear swaybar equipped S car will *not* come out on top.  If you
> routinely drive below this threshold, a RSB might be an upgrade worth
> considering, but the point is, there are better ways to skin the cat.   AND
> if you have done nothing in the front in terms of size, a guy that's done his
> homework with *no* rear swaybar will show tail.
>
> I went thru this with Carl Jerritts coil over 5ktq (mit rear 92 S4 bar) years
> ago.  After a thorough "operations check" of his suspension in the hills of
> CO, my unheeded advice was to remove the rear bar.  It caused premature lift
> of the inside rear wheel, causing slow outs on agressive turns.  Diagnosed
> btw, on the phone months before I got there, stubborness continues thru the
> present owner.
>
> Summary:  Get Hap to find a bigger FRONT bar, not put in a bigger rear bar.
>
> my .02 arbitraged thru the peso
>
> SJ
>
>
> In a message dated 6/18/02 6:38:51 PM Central Daylight Time, FvAMI at aol.com
> writes:
>
>
> Go drive a car without one. You won't take it off! If you like to pull solid
> lateral Gs.
>
> Best regards,
> Feico van der Laan
>
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I always thought if the car understeers, the last thing you want to do is
add stiffness (reduce compliance, by way of anti-roll bars, stress-bars
stiffer springs/shocks) at the front end. It would just make the problem
worse.

I am assuming that the goal is reduce the unwanted understeer.

Serge Filanovsky

95 S6 Avant





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