[s-cars] Oil Drain Cock.

[James Murray (LMC)]

I guess one point to note in Futomo's favor, if you loose the extra Fram
nipple for the hose you have no way to drain the oil (unless you revert to
the old method of removing the plug completely). While with the Futomo
design even if you loose the extra nipple for the hose you can still drain
the fluid by using the valve.

/J.

	-----Original Message-----
	From:	James Murray (LMC)
	Sent:	May 13, 2002 10:31 AM
	To:	'KBATTPO'
	Cc:	'tblack'; s-car-list at audifans.com
	Subject:	RE: [s-cars] Oil Drain Cock.

	Igor, no offense/flame taken whatsoever, and thanks for pointing
that out. I haven't seen one close up yet, just saw an add for it this
weekend and Tom's post reminded me so I thought I'd mention it.

	I agree with you about their filters, but the valve looks like a
neat design. It looks lower profile?  I'd have to see one close up to
determine quality compared to the Futomo. If it does the job its not bad at
half the price, $15 for the Fram while the Futomo is $26 plus 3 extra for
the nipple.

	Cheers, /J.

		-----Original Message-----
		From:	KBATTPO [SMTP:igor at s-cars.org]
		Sent:	May 13, 2002 10:13 AM
		To:	James Murray (LMC)
		Cc:	'tblack'; s-car-list at audifans.com
		Subject:	Re: [s-cars] Oil Drain Cock.

		"James Murray (LMC)" wrote:
		>
		> I saw something on the weekend that Fram has a new product
out to easily
		> drain the oil, essentially a drain cock that you can
attach a hose.
		>
		> A quick google run turned up the following:
		>
		> http://www.autobarn.net/frasdseries.html
		> <http://www.autobarn.net/frasdseries.html>
		>
		> http://www.fram.com/home/index.html
<http://www.fram.com/home/index.html>
		>
		> http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/020325/252354_1.html
		> <http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/020325/252354_1.html>
		>
		> Looks interesting, but I don't have the part #, thread
size, etc. needed for
		> the AAN. Anyone else?

		Careful here, folks. For Audis they list tone size fits all
(SD2) which
		is not true. The 10v 5 cyl used 12mm drain, plug, the 20v 5
cyl, the
		1.8T 4 cyl use the 26mm plug. I am not surprised in the
least - it's
		Fram, the maker of the crappiest filters under the sun.
Besides, the
		acvtion is somewhat less elegant than in the Fumoto valve.
		James, forgive me, this is not meant to be a flame by any
means, just a
		datapoint.

		Igor