[s-cars] 6-speed questions
Charlie Smith
charlie at elektro.cmhnet.org
Thu Nov 7 19:46:31 EST 2002
Earlier, Paul Krasusky wrote:
>
> Hi Charlie-
>
> Ditzy keyboards? What do you mean?
Ill take q phooto and send it to you after >I get back.
Heres some key problems:
A key is Q
W key is q Z
M key is off to the right
Period (.) is uppercase lower right
Many others are in a different place ...
All numbers are upper case
>
> OK, sorry to bother you. I surfed your site yesterday extensively. Now I'm
> confused. There was a comment there that said ALL post '96 or so units had
> both hard / wide 1st. Please help! I hope to have serial #'s today /
> tomorrow. What a pain. I do understand the 105H/J speak on your page, but
> need to determine what these DSY's are. 1999 //S4 units. Part # is
> 01E300044. Where do I look to see if it's H or J?
Part number needs an alpha character after to mean anything
Only a few cars used the hardened 1st.
The DSY has a 105J which is wide and not hardened.
Look at ver 6 of ETKA and look at 99 S4.
- Charlie
>
> Thanks again, I appreciate the fact you're likely busy. Any help is greatly
> appreciated.
>
> -Paul
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charlie Smith [mailto:charlie at elektro.cmhnet.org]
> Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 5:53 AM
> To: KrasuskyP at FirstInterBank.com
> Cc: charlie at elektro.cmhnet.org
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] 6-speed questions
>
>
> Earlier, Paul Krasusky wrote:
> >
> > Charlie-
> >
> > Question for you:
> >
> > You reference on your site that 1st gear with 275F will be wide. Can I
> also
> > then assume the mainshaft is a hardened one? As in the '99 DSY I'm
> > considering. It does have 275F first. I need to ensure the main is
> > hardened. Is there another code I can look for to determine this?
>
> It has wide and not hardened 1st.
>
> Look qt 105H and 105J discussion in zeb pages.
>
> - Charlie
>
> >
> > Thanks again!
> >
> > -Paul
> >
> > p.s. have fun in Paris!
>
> Ditzy keyboards over here ...
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Charlie Smith [mailto:charlie at elektro.cmhnet.org]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 10:01 AM
> > To: KrasuskyP at FirstInterBank.com
> > Cc: s-car-list at audifans.com; charlie at elektro.cmhnet.org
> > Subject: Re: [s-cars] 6-speed questions
> >
> >
> > Hi Paul -
> >
> > I checked the FA on the DSY as used in the '99 S4. The ratios are the
> > same as the UrS4/UrS6 6 speed gearboxes. This is just a bit shorter
> > on 5th and 6th than the earlier S4tt (EDU) gearbox.
> >
> > DSY ratios are:
> > ---------------
> > 1st 3.5
> > 2nd 1.89
> > 3rd 1.32
> > 4th 1.03
> > 5th 0.86
> > 6th 0.73
> >
> > EDU ratios (earlier S4tt)
> > -------------------------
> > 1st 3.5
> > 2nd 1.89
> > 3rd 1.32
> > 4th 1.03
> > 5th 0.81
> > 6th 0.68
> >
> > CRB ratios (RS2)
> > ----------------
> > 1st 3.5
> > 2nd 1.89
> > 3rd 1.32
> > 4th 1.03
> > 5th 0.86
> > 6th 0.71
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Earlier, Paul Krasusky wrote:
> > >
> > > Paul-
> > >
> > > Thanks for taking the time to research this for me, appreciate it. This
> > is
> > > from my contact in Germany I've been trying to source a unit through, a
> > guy
> > > that many other listers have used / are using, I believe him to be
> pretty
> > > knowledgeable:
> > >
> > > <<<A DSY fits perfectly. Peter Blaser has
> > > one behind his 20V. A DSY has the wide
> > > first and an oil pump. The oil pump
> > > means that you'll have to have some
> > > lines with banjo fittings made and run
> > > an external oil coolerm. It has pretty
> > > much the same ratios as the CRB, but
> > > 3rd and 4th a different. 6th is the
> > > same as CRB. I believe that 3rd and 4th
> > > are the same ratios as your current 5
> > > speed, with an extra ratio thrown in
> > > between 4th and 5th.>>>
> > >
> > > So I *think* I should be OK, no? Charlie, any thoughts?
> > >
> > > Thanks again to you both.
> > >
> > > -P
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Paul Gailus [mailto:gailus at mindspring.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 1:09 AM
> > > To: Charlie Smith; Paul Krasusky
> > > Subject: Re: [s-cars] 6-speed questions
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Charlie, Paul
> > >
> > > My Euro family album says that the DSY has the
> > > 01E 301 103 J front transmission housing,
> > > while the 6-speed EDU for the US S4tt's
> > > shows a 01E 301 103 K housing like that in the
> > > CGR's and CRB's.
> > >
> > > Even though the '103 J is normally used with V8's,
> > > the Euro album seems to be confirming that the
> > > DSY is used with the 2.7L V6.
> > >
> > > Anyway, I just wanted to bring this up as a possible
> > > issue. Perhaps it's a mistake in the Euro album.
> > > Or maybe it doesn't matter. But in any case, it's
> > > still a little confusing.
> > >
> > > -Paul Gailus
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Charlie Smith <charlie at elektro.cmhnet.org>
> > > To: Paul Krasusky <KrasuskyP at FirstInterBank.com>
> > > Cc: Audi S Car List <s-car-list at audifans.com>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 2:49 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [s-cars] 6-speed questions
> > >
> > >
> > > > Earlier, Paul Krasusky wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Gents-
> > > > >
> > > > > Quick 6-speed questions for you all:
> > > > >
> > > > > Subject gearbox is 1999 S4 DSY. Are these are direct bolt in units?
> > Or
> > > do
> > > > > they require new rear housings, etc.? Also, the ratios are
> generally
> > > > > *slightly* higher than the CRB (meaning lower revs in each gear), do
> > you
> > > > > think this is a mismatch to either my car with a MTM 1+ set up or my
> > > friends
> > > > > with RS2 set up?
> > > >
> > > > Don't know what a DSY really is.
> > > >
> > > > Have not seen it in the parts info I've researched, probably just
> missed
> > > it.
> > > >
> > > > If it's from a S4tt, it will work OK. 5th and 6th are slightly
> longer,
> > > > and turn the engine a little bit slower at a given road speed than
> > > > would a RS2 (CRB) gearbox. 1st through 4th are the same as a CRB.
> > > >
> > > > Avoid a gearbox from a TDI (diesel), because the ratios are a LOT
> > > > longer than others. Also avoid an Allroad gearbox, because the ring
> > > > and pinion ratio is different and will not work with your rear
> > > > differential ratio.
> > > >
> > > > - Charlie
> > > >
> > > >
> >
>
>
> --
>
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> http://elektro.cmhnet.org/~charlie/ Columbus Ohio USA
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>
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