[V6-12v] Re: [A4] RE: [s-cars] Antifreeze ? Anything enique?

[fast928 at prodigy.net]

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Valum??  HMMMM??  Maybe you meant Valium!!?

Excuses are like a$$hole$, everybody's got them.  Even with the excuse it s=
till doesn't make since because your overflow AND your owner's manual would=
 tell you to get G11.....NOT G12.  Do you know what happens when you "ASSUM=
E"??  In your case you replace your radiator!!?

>Oh and by the way, most owners manuals say "use only XXX approved XXX"

What is that supposed to be...a part number??  Audi doesn't list part numbe=
rs in their owners manuals because.....they are subject to change at a late=
r date.  Therefore, if they listed a part number and then changed it would =
be wrong in the manual.  G 002 000 is the closest thing you'll get to a par=
t number (do you know what that's for??)!!  Man, Audi is always thinking.

If your car takes G11, the owners manual will say, and I quote from one of =
mine..."The coolant consists of a mixture of water and the manufacturer's c=
oolant additive G11 - antifreeze on glycol basis with anti-corrosion additi=
ves...."  They even tell you the mixture concentration!!

If you're car takes G12.  The manual will specifically tell you NOT to use =
G11.

If you don't know what G11 OR G12 is then I would buy it DIRECTLY from the =
dealer.  For future reference, you should try to plan ahead when working on=
 your car (i.e. buy coolant before you touch the coolant system).  I even h=
ave dealer coolant (G12) in my garage; just in case.  I guess I was thinkin=
g ahead since my closest dealer is an hour away!

P=2ES.  Since you haven't read your owner's manual in a while.  G11 AND G12=
 are poisonous (says so "in the manual").  I don't want you to assume that =
they are "delicious"!!  :-D
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Andrew Lundy
fast928 at prodigy.net
99 A6q
90 CQ

90 80q - R.I.P.




Lee Levitt wrote:

Oy, someone needs to switch to decaf :)Lee-----Original Message-----From: s=
-car-list-admin at audifans.com[mailto:s-car-list-admin at audifans.com]On Behalf=
 Of fast928 at prodigy.netSent: Friday, November 08, 2002 6:08 PMTo: Aaron; Ri=
ch Assarabowski; lucab at msn.comCc: 'Igor Kessel'; 'michael schneider'; '* S =
List'; '*12V List'; '*A4List'; '*Quattro List'Subject: Re: [V6-12v] Re: [A4=
] RE: [s-cars] Antifreeze ? Anythingenique?This is a multi-part message in =
MIME format.--[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]<RANT ON>WOW.=
  This is so SAD.  How hard can it be to figure out??Look at your frick'n c=
ar for once.  It tells you direct
ly whereyou add the coolant.  You can't miss it.  Depending on the yearof t=
he car it will say on a tag at the overflow tank or it willactually be STAM=
PED into the overflow tank itself.  It's reallynot that hard.  For example.=
.=2EOn my 1990 CQ there is a tag around the overflow cap.  The tagsays "Use=
 only Audi specified phosphate free anti-freezecontaining ethylene glycol /=
 G11  Available at your Audi dealer"This tag has a part number 000 010 007G=
, in case anyone wants tobuy one an staple it to there forehead  :-)On my 1=
999 A6, STAMPED into the overflow tank is a "G12" with anarrow pointing int=
o the tank.I suppose some dumb PO could have removed the tags (on those car=
sequipped) but it's still listed in your owner's manual.  If yourG11 tag is=
 missing...ORDER IT!!  I guess this just goes to showthat nothing is foolpr=
oof!!  <RANT OFF>---Andrew Lundyfast928 at prodigy.net99 A6q90 CQ90 80q - R.I.=
P=2E  ----- Original Message -----  From: Aaron  To: Rich Assarabowski  Cc:=
 'Igor Kessel' ; 'michael schneider' ; '* S List' ; '*12VList' ; '*A4 List'=
 ; '*Quattro List'  Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 10:04 AM  Subject: [V6-=
12v] Re: [A4] RE: [s-cars] Antifreeze ? Anything enique?  Hi all  Now you h=
ave me concerned...  I just replaced thermo and filled 50/50 with Audi cool=
ant P/NZVW 237 GL 12 - Its pink / red  Any problems with this in urs6? (i w=
ont mix - promise)  Thx  Aaron  Rich Assarabowski wrote:Point well taken, I=
gor.  I was referring specifically to the urS4whichBruce was asking about. =
 Bentley call for the G11 for theseengines.Mixing G11 and G12 is a no-no.--=
 RichRich Assarabowskiwrote:Bruce:Use Pentosin G001100 (popularly known as =
G11), it'sthe blue stuff.It's also sold at VW dealers unde
r their Autobahnlabel.  I boughtmine at Blaufergnugen, they currently have =
it onspecial at 10% off.Draining procedure is outlined in Bentley(drain rad=
iator, removethermostat), be sure to replace thethermostat O-ring with a ne=
w one.Use distilled water, not tapwater when making your 50/50 mixture.Pret=
ty straightforward onthese cars.-- Rich Assarabowski   '93 S4   '83 Coupe G=
T   '90200qIs there a  "special" antifreeze that must be used in ourAudi's?=
  Mycar is a '95.5 S6. (ohne Silicates, aluminum enginecomponents, etcetera=
) Any BTDT with this DIY issue?  Flushtechniques? Where tobuy?_____________=
__________________________________A4 mailinglistA4 at audifans.comhttp://www.a=
udifans.com/mailman/listinfo/a4Rich,I see that you have CC:-ed the A4 list.=
 The colour of Pentosinfor mostA4-s is RED! The p/n is G 012 A8 D. Accordin=
g to my A4Bentley mixingthe two  will cause a major damage to the engine.Be=
ntley provides a VINcutout, somewhere in the 1996 m.y. ifmemory serves me r=
ight. Be verycareful, folks!--Igor Kesseltwoturboquattros__________________=
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