[s-cars] B I G snow tires

Vincent Frégeac vfregeac at sympatico.ca
Wed Nov 13 21:35:39 EST 2002


Ray,

May be Luke is worth a jumper cable set. My girlfriend have the same
LM22s (195 though) on her Saab for the third winter and I like them much
more than my WinterSports. So tread life seems not bad considering she
"drives like a man" according to all the bold people who get in her car.
The LM22s perform great on ice, quite well on snow and quite well on dry
asphalt. They are not as good as the WS-50 on snow and not as good as
WinterSport on asphalt but it's the best compromise I've tested yet.

HTH



Vincent.

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De : s-car-list-admin at audifans.com
[mailto:s-car-list-admin at audifans.com] De la part de Raymond H.
Tomlinson
Envoyé : 13 novembre 2002 15:51
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Objet : [s-cars] B I G snow tires

Preface:  I'm a Vermonter, transplanted here in Boston.  I wear a
Carhart jacket that has blood stains (mine, I think) on the sleeve, and
the elbows and wrists are worn off.  Grew up racing Volvo wagons.  I
know about wallow, understeer, poor brakes and lack of power.  I run
dedicated snows.  Sometimes year-round.  I am a diehard Nokia snow
owner.  Given the opportunity, I'd run nothing else.  Except when the
Hakka 1, Hakka 2, Hakka Q are NOT offered in 17" fitments, and when my
local Nokia dealer wants to sell me 225/45/17 NRW's for $213.07 per,
sans any french kissing first.  To top it all off, sperm banks don't pay
what they used to.  Or, maybe it is just me.

Like everything in life, I wait until panic mode sets in.  I work better
under pressure.  I'm supposed to go home this weekend (Vermont).  Mom
says we're supposed to get hit with a bad storm.  So, I call my trusty
salesman at the Tire Rack.  Luke praises the Blizzak LM22.  Our
dialogue:

RAY:  I want the name of the moron(s) who reported to you that Pole
S03's are "good" in the snow.  Christ, at 40F in the rain they are
downright dangerous.  Clearly these idiots are related to you.

LUKE:  (chuckling) Actually, I think it was your father.

RAY:  That's pretty funny.  Considering that my father died a horrific
death when I ran him over with the tractor and brush hog when I was 12.
(uneasy pause)  Seriously, when are you going to offer real snows, like
my favorite Hakka 1's?

LUKE:  (as if I said nothing) I'd go with the Blizzak LM22.

RAY:  Of course you would.  You get another free jumper cable set and
fuzzy hat that you can re-gift to your mother-in-law for Christmas.
Plus, I'd like my snows to last more than a month, so don't offer me
none of that multi-cell crap.

LUKE:  If you would shut the hell up, and listen to me, you would know
LEARN that the LM22 is NOT a multi-cell compound.  Isn't it funny how
SOME people can be so opinionated, yet not have all the facts?

RAY:  Are we married?  Do you wash the stains out of my underwear?  Do
we share a joint checking account?  How about we try it this way:  I'll
ask you what tire in a 225 lays down the least treadwith, and you give
me the price that will keep me referring people to you.  Deal?

LUKE:  Oh yeah, I forgot.  The Audi guys know everything.

RAY:  No, just me.  But, at least you are catching on.  Always nice to
chat with you.  Do you still have my credit card on file?

LUKE:  I've already shipped the tires.  Thanks for the jumper cable set.


Luke proceeds to tell me that the LM22 in a 225 lays down only 6.9" of
tread.  Looking through my notes, I find that a 205/55/16 Hakka 1 lays
down 8.4" of treadwidth.

Then, I start running another dialogue in my head:  Do I buy yet another
set of 16" wheels, this time clearing my brakes by a hair, and then
repaint my mutilated calipers in the spring, or do I throw snows on my
17" wheels and then drop coin for some Superleggera's in the spring?

Any and all thoughts welcome.

Ray Tomlinson


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