[s-cars] louder exhaust
Robert Pastore
rpastore at animalfeeds.com
Thu Nov 21 13:33:09 EST 2002
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Jeff:
Re: the cat-- there are 2 different issues:
1) Bob F*cked up his own cat by hitting it with a hammer after he got tired
of it banging against his transmission. My own mistake, not Stromung's.
2) I think twin OEM cats have more flow area thus less restriction (and
better flow) than a single 3" cat. The increased flow might be offset
somewhat by putting the "Y" to feed twin cats into the system.....but this
is how the factory got the flow numbers they needed.
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: jeff posto [mailto:jpostup at yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 1:14 PM
To: Robert Pastore; 'Paul Friedenberg'; FvAMI at aol.com; n3xgc at yahoo.com
Cc: s-car-list at audifans.com
Subject: RE: [s-cars] louder exhaust
Thanks for the kudos Bob.
It's true Stromung can imporve that downpipe for RS2 and further S cars.
That's pretty easy. I have a sample downpipe pipe now to use as a mockup.
Better stainless, wider aperture, imporved wastegate pipe location, all part
of the next gen system. Beta sample due in the winter time.
The twin pipe system will need a fitment car in So Cal. Bob has a great
design worked out, but I gotta tell you. Pastore pricing is tough to beat.
At least Stromung can achieve the repeatability of a jigged setup.
Plus Bob clooged his single cat. So a dual should handle the load for the
RS2 equipped rocket.
More later.
Jeff Posto
Robert Pastore <rpastore at animalfeeds.com> wrote:
Stromung, IMO:
Pros:
1) The service at Stromung has been great, especially with our man Jeff
Posto.
2) Nice looking system.
3) Uses Excellent Magnaflow mufflers
3) Great at price point for k24 cars.
Cons:
1) Questionable whether system outflows stock system. Single 3" has less
flow area than two(stock) 2 1/4" pipes. I'll let the engineers calculate
whether the reduced surface friction of a single 3" pipe more than
compensates for the greater area of twin 2 1/4" pipes. My butt dyno doesn't
feel an improvement.
2) I don't think single 3" cat will outflow twin OEM cats.
3) Some clearance issues with system banging under load.
4) With track use ( especially on rs2 turbo equipped cars) there have
several instances of a cracked weld on the downpipe to tube joint.
I'd really like to see Stromung develop a better downpipe and a twin 2 1/2"
system for those of us who are beyond stage 1+.
Bob
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From: Paul Friedenberg [mailto:paulunm at msn.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 11:57 AM
To: FvAMI at aol.com; n3xgc at yahoo.com
Cc: s-car-list at audifans.com
Subject: Re: [s-cars] louder exhaust
IMO the Stromung is one of the highest quality, best fitting, best looking
aftermarket exhaust systems I have seen. I wish mine was free, but I had no
problem paying over a grand for it!
>From: FvAMI at aol.com
>To: n3xgc at yahoo.com
>CC: s-car-list at audifans.com
>Subject: Re: [s-cars] louder exhaust
>Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 11:01:33 EST
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>In a message dated 11/16/02 3:37:52 PM Pacific Standard Time,
>n3xgc at yahoo.com
>writes:
>
>
> > I've got a Remus muffler in with stock middle resonator on my S6.
>Sounds a
> > little louder and deeper, but not as throaty as the Stromung's on other
>cars
> > in my area, but I don't have the RS2 bits like they do either :(
> >
> >
>
>Is you car black on black and a 95.5? The Remus exhaust sounds great and it
>looks really good too. I don't think Stromung can build that type of
>quality.
>I won't forget the agony I went through for a few free chips from TAP so
>Stromung could pull the exhaust off my car to measure the stock exhaust to
>build that exhaust ... so personally I will never put it on (even if it was
>free) ... I waited an hour for him to show up and we didn't finish the
>first
>day and had to come back the next day ... he offered to put one on for free
>when it was done (back in 1997) ... no thanks!
>
>Best regards,
>Feico van der Laan
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